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got the scope in and did some testing
first impressions were VERY good

I have had a ton of scopes from Nikons, Burris, Elite 4200s, Leupold VX3s, Zeiss Conquests and on up to IOR, Swarovski and Kahles

My favorite scope for hunting and what is on my Sako 270 is a Kahles 3-10x50 with a German #4 reticle


that scope has spoiled me with it's extremely clear glass, etched reticle, high resolution and excellent contrast and the #4 reticle is easily seen in very low light and I could easily take shots well past legal hunting time.
I can read license plates at 300 yards down our street with just minimal street lights and can easily read street signs at 300 yards that I can't even see with my naked eye

There's a big field behind our house and always deer in the evenings out there, so, last night about 7:15, well past dark I scanned the area with my eyes and could see a silhoette of a deer about 125 yards out due to the lighting of a bldg about 250 yards away.

The field itself has no artificial lighting and there was no moon to speak of last night..
Once the deer moved to the right where there was no backlighting it disappered to my naked eye yet I could have easily done done a neck shot on it with the Weaver and the ill ret on it's lowest setting.
Excellent..
I grabbed my Sako to check it against the Kahles, I could clearly see the deer of course and I could have taken a heart/lung shot, though the exact crosshair intersection couldn't be clearly seen and a neck shot I wouldn't take... with the ill ret of the Weaver I could have easily popped the doe right behind the ear..

Switched back the AR with the Weaver and got back on the deer, about that same time it took off at a run and with the red dot of the ill ret I was able to follow it and could have shot it on the run. I practice dry firing and my dad drilled it in us to keep both eyes open, don't flinch and call the shot.. no problem, when the gun went "click" the red dot was right behind the shoulder

I checked the street sign at the end of our street, right at 300 yards, I easily could read the street letters. The sign was completely invisible to my naked eye.

I didn't do any hard resolution testing, like trying to read newspaper print at 100 yards, but from first impressions I would say this Weaver is very, very impressive and I am kind of shocked to admit I really couldn't see any glaring differences between it and the Kahles..


I did a little whacking on the scope with the ill ret turned on to make sure it stayed on after a bad experience recently with 2 Burris ill ret scopes that wouldn't stay lit after a shot or with any minor bumping of the scope and that are at Burris being repaired... the Weaver held fine.


now, they were selling these for 600 bucks or so and the closeout at 289 bucks makes this scope a STEAL in my mind

being a 56mm objective scope it's a BIG scope and wouldn't want to put it on a nice light and trim bolt action if I were going to be out walking much with the gun, but for my purposes, being on a quick detatch (ADM) mount and used for night hog hunting on my 6.8 out of a blind and having an Aimpoint on a quick detach mount for day / stalk hunting I am very happy with it. Of course, we will have to see about long term durability....
 

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got the scope in and did some testing
first impressions were VERY good

I have had a ton of scopes from Nikons, Burris, Elite 4200s, Leupold VX3s, Zeiss Conquests and on up to IOR, Swarovski and Kahles

My favorite scope for hunting and what is on my Sako 270 is a Kahles 3-10x50 with a Gereman #4 reticle
that scope has spoilded me with it's extremely clear glass, etched reticle, high resolution and excellent contrast and the #4 reticle is easily seen in very low light and I could easily take shots well past legal hunting time
I can read license plates at 300 yards down our street with just minmal street lights and can easily read street signs at 300 yards that I can't even see with my naked eye

There's a big field behind our house and always deer in the eveninges out there, so, last night about 7:15, well past dark I scanned the area with my eyes and could see a silhoette of a deer about 125 yards out due to the lighting of a bldg about 250 yards away. The field itself has not artificial lighting and there was no moon to speak of last night..
once the deer moved to the right where there was no backlighting it disappered to my naked eye yet I could have easily done done a neck shot on it with the Weaver and the ill ret on it's lowest setting.
Excellent..

I grabbed my Sako and checked it against the Kahles, easily see the deer of course and I could have taken a heart/lung shot easily enough though the exact crosshair intersection couldn't be clearly seen and a neck shot I wouldn't take... with the ill ret of the Weaver I could have easily popped the doe right behind the ear..

grabbed the AR with the Weaver and got back on the deer, about that same time it took off at a run and with the red dot of the ill ret I was able to follow it and could have shot it on the run. I practice dry firing and my dad drilled it in us to keep both eyes open, don't flinch and call the shot.. no problem, when the gun went "click" the red dot was right behind the shoulder

I checked reading the stop sign at the end of our street, right at 300 yards, easily could read the sign and the sign was completely invisible to my naked eye

I didn't do any hard resolution testing, like trying to read newspaper print at 100 yards, but from first impressions I would say this Weaver is very, very impressive and I am kind of shocked to admit I really couldn't see any glaring differences between it and the Kahles..

I did a little wacking on the scope with the ill ret turned on to make sure it stayed on after a bad experience recently with 2 Burris ill ret scopes that wouldn't stay lit after a shot or with any minor bumping of the scope and that are at Burris being repaired... the Weaver held fine

now, they were selling these for 600 bucks or so and the closeout at 289 bucks makes this scope a STEAL in my mind

being a 56mm objective scope it's a BIG scope and wouldn't want to put it on a nice light and trim bolt action if I were going to be out walking much with the gun, but for my purposes, being on a quick detatch (ADM) mount and used for night hog hunting on my 6.8 out of a blind and having an Aimpoint on a quick detach mount for day / stalk hunting I am very happy with it. Of course, we will have to see about long term durability....
Thanks for the 'real life' almost review.. When I saw the price, I just went ahead and ordered one as well, for the exact same thing, HOGS. The hogs come out right after dark, so I need something a bit better than what I have, and from what you and others say I won't be disapointed. The only GOOD scope I can compare it to is my Zeis Conquest which I love. I have it on my Varminter. I don't expect it to be that good, just close and it seems like it will be.

With the quick detach mount, does it still stay close to zero? Also where did you get this mount?

Also one other question, seeing how I got the 56mm objective, will the SPR LaRue mount work for me? Going to put it on a Xtreme68...

Thanks,
 

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others have reported it being slightly better glass than the Monarchs
I put the Conquests at about the same description
my Kahles is a definitive step up from the Conquest (had the 4.5-14x44) and a tad sharper than the Swarovski AH 3-10x42 I had..

I couldn't see any real difference last night
I may do more exhaustive evaluations soon but I know it's clear, bright and should be perfect for hogs

your mount should be fine
I have mine in an ADM xtended with a 1.5" centerline (same as Larue) and there's a 1/2" or clearance between the bottom of the scope and the top of the free float tube

btw, I have one of Harrison's 6.8 uppers and love it!
congrats on the new gun
 

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These scopes were a well kept secret until Natchez put them on sale. I paid $350 for my 1.5 X 4.5 with German reticle last year and thought it was a hell of a deal. It is my favorite "cheap" scope and works very well on my 16" Larue Stealth upper with double duty during deer season on my 6.8. If I had the disposable income now there would be a second one on its way to me.
 

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so this is a better scope than the elite 4200, nikon monarch and leupold vx3.... IYO ???

269.00.... sheeeit

this review makes it easier to decide
 

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so this is a better scope than the elite 4200, nikon monarch and leupold vx3.... IYO ???

269.00.... sheeeit

this review makes it easier to decide
Black Lion, I believe he was reviewing the 2-10X56mm scope, not the 1-4X one
 

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The OP was reviewing the 2.5 X 10 but the comments do carry over to the lower magnification model as well with the exception of side parallax adjustment. My comments were referring to the 1.5 X 4.5 model. For the price Natchez is selling these scopes you can't beat the deal. I like the Weaver scope better than the Bushnell 4200.
 

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My Life in a nutshell! I attempted to Order one of the nice Weaver scopes from Natchez, but was told that they dont ship to Alabama, Tennessee or Georgia since they are a wholeseller and Im not a dealer. So No quality scope for me!
Do you want me to order it for you and then send it to you?
 

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I may just do that, check your PMs in a few Paulo
Damn, that was a fast reply. :lol: Where the hell are you at?
Lol, watching the discovery channel, hitting the View Active topicseveru couple minutes... BTW im in SOuth GA... about 60 miles from Florida.... but that doesnt seem to matter to them
 

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same here
glad to help someone if they won't ship to them
already helping a guy on the Texasboars site who is local to Natchezz
 

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I found a leupold 1-5x20 vx3 30mm illuminated duplex reticle for 359.00 ... it is back ordered but my choice is between the discontinued weaver extreme 1.5-4.5x24 or a leupold vx3... I looked thru both the vx3 and elite 4200 and couldnt tell the difference other than the weight....


HELP ME DECIDE....

:shock:

this review is helping... I could always grab the weaver and if I didnt like it resell it for a leupold.... I could still get 400.00 for that scope.... natchez wont have them at that price forever...
 
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