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MCA in another area posted about an ACE socom stock, I thought you guys may give him somefeed back on those and other stocks you have tried.
I have one and the button is not the best system, it wears the alum grooves down to the point the stock will not stay in position, looks like time for a big screw or 2. I also have an CAA ARS that is loose and will not hold the adj cheek rest up. edited- I had to clear a stuck case today smacked the ARS on the ground while pulling the charge handle and shattered the whole stock so IMO that one is a NO-GO.
I have had a UBR on order forever and have a MOE that is fine thus far.
 

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Thanks H,

I've not received the ACE yet - Del-ton is stupid slow in getting orders out - even for things they have in stock. I have UBR's on backorder in three different places - if they ever come in all at once I figure I ought to be able to sell them off with no problem.

Jason at BCT just announced he was putting ACE's on sale on his site in another thread - if I was going to stick with an ACE I might just call up Del-ton and cancel the order (if they will let me at this point).
 

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Spike's has M4 milspec stocks with the famous "SPIDER" on it. The M4 stock works fine for the price range.

http://www.spikestactical.com/z/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=41_36&products_id=46

CTRs are nice, so the MOE version should be fine.

Actually I think the A2 stock works well on AR's with optics, for me at least.

My next build will probably have a VLTOR EMOD. Paulo likes his, and I sampled one on a rifle at a gun show.

LMT's SOPMOD seems well put together but is pricey.
 

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Let the thread run for a day and see if more ACE SOCOM owners pipe in.

To me, isn't the SOCOM stock one you would adjust the LOP for you and not adjust it in and out all the time like you would with a M4 stock? Maybe the adjustment mechanism would last longer if you set it and forgot it. I played with one before and to me it seems like it's not too friendly to be collapsing and telescoping back and forth all the time.
 

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MCA in another area posted about an ACE socom stock, I thought you guys may give him somefeed back on those and other stocks you have tried.
I have one and the button is not the best system, it wears the alum grooves down to the point the stock will not stay in position, looks like time for a big screw or 2. I also have an CAA ARS that is loose and will not hold the adj cheek rest up.
I have had a UBR on order forever and have a MOE that is fine thus far.
Talk to their customer service people (CAA) and see if they will swap out your stock to the newer ones. They actually listened to me and remade the metal parts out of what looks like descent stainless steel and did a few other tweaks to make things a bit better. The knobs are now secured to the bolts for the LOP and the cheek piece so they won't get lost.
 

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I like a M4 adjustable stock. I've been trying several different ones. Ctr pulls my facial hair terrible. Socoms just ok. A2 works awesome, ace arfx skeleton works awesome. So I would rank;

M4 adjustable
Ace Arfx
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I've been shooting a Socom the last few day. I like it so far. Just one step better than a ctr. We will see how the locking mechanism last. I like the Ctr alot. I just have to remember to shave before I go shoot. Besides that CTR is really nice. Last time I shot I put a piece of electric tape in between the tube and stock and it worked fine.
 

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The CTR and the M4 stocks are both okay, but they do pull facial hair.... they are both light and set the balance off on my 16 inch rifles

I am still liking my UBR and my 93B and I set those and forget them, unless I pick up a rifle set for the GF or I switch optics on my UBR rifle...
 

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MCA in another area posted about an ACE socom stock, I thought you guys may give him somefeed back on those and other stocks you have tried.
I have one and the button is not the best system, it wears the alum grooves down to the point the stock will not stay in position, looks like time for a big screw or 2.
Is this the one with updated locking mechanism? The updated mechanism is square with rounded edges, the old mechanism is completely round. 2-3 years ago I got a long socom from midway that had a recall as the buffer tubes wern't drilled deep enough, anyway when I returned it i also exchanged it for a standard length SOCOM. This one had an updated locking mechanism that was square instead of round. Also to note, this was before ACE sold out to JT Dist. I don't know about their QC or Customer Service since. I did order 2 Ace M4 stocks for $32 a piece including buffer tube, that took 2 months to show up.

I personall haven't had an issue with mine and find that I don't adjust the length on any of my carbine stocks after I find a good shooting position.

So, one positive review of the stock after having it for a couple of years. Also, I like that it is more solid than a poly stock and that the Cheek pad does not move when length is adjusted it feels the same no mater how much you adjust the rear.
 

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Is this the one with updated locking mechanism? The updated mechanism is square with rounded edges, the old mechanism is completely round. 2-3 years ago I got a long socom from midway that had a recall as the buffer tubes wern't drilled deep enough, anyway when I returned it i also exchanged it for a standard length SOCOM. This one had an updated locking mechanism that was square instead of round. Also to note, this was before ACE sold out to JT Dist. I don't know about their QC or Customer Service since. I did order 2 Ace M4 stocks for $32 a piece including buffer tube, that took 2 months to show up.

I personall haven't had an issue with mine and find that I don't adjust the length on any of my carbine stocks after I find a good shooting position.

So, one positive review of the stock after having it for a couple of years. Also, I like that it is more solid than a poly stock and that the Cheek pad does not move when length is adjusted it feels the same no mater how much you adjust the rear.
No, I have had it for a few years, just thought it would be better if he had comments from several since I am a little hard on my stuff. edited see top post
 

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I have the UBR on my patrol rifle, and I like it very very much. It is built like a tank! Comfortable and balances out the 5.56 very nicely. I went with the mil-spec CTR for the 6.8 build. I just did a mock up of the 6.8 build and it locks up nice and tight on the mil-spec buffer tube vey nicely. I still want to get an OD green UBR for the 6.8, but I have not seen one or have any luck trying to get anyone to sell me one they have. That and I am not willing to pony up an extra $150 to $200 for something that retails for $265. :)
 

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I love the CTR, because it doesn't make noise. That is critical for me. I stalk up to animals the are dangerous and sometimes actually charge me. I don't want my rifle making any noise....period

The M4 stocks rattle like crazy, especially when you adjust them. The CTR can be adjusted noiselessly, once you learn the technique,.

I love the VLTOR Emod but it also makes some noise when I adjust the LOP.
 

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I like the Magpul CTR a lot but I am anxious to get my hands on a UBR. I believe the extra weight in the back will better balance the slightly nose heavy 16" carbine. My post ban stocks (stuck in Permaban NYS) are A2's and Ace which continue serve me well.
 

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HTR is brownells ever ships me your UBR you will have that to play with :D
 

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I have owned Vltors, both original and Emod, Magpul M93B, CTR, and MOE, and the stock.... stocks (A2 and M4). I have shot with an ACE (no idea as to model) and the LMT SOPMOD.

ALL of the stocks but the ACE have pulled the beard, but frankly the ACE was so ungodly uncomfortable, and offered NO improvement over the M4 stock, that I'd rather have the beard pulled. The LMT was probably the least pully of the remaining bunch.

FWIW, if dealing with a complete factory gun, I think the stock is one of the LAST pieces that should be changed out. I see a lot of people running out and buying wonder-this and fantasto-that with no appreciable benefit and without ever really trying the original. 'Bout the only legit complaint with the M4 stock is that it benefits from the addition of a non-slip surface at the butt. Most people that think they need to eliminate the rattle (outside of a perceived need for stealth) would be better served focusing on the shooting and not the stock. I equate worrying about stock rattle to the same mindset that leads to worrying about the front sight post getting in the way when using a red dot sight.

That said, I can be as much of a gear whore as the next guy (as evidenced by my safe), and I do think that if you're building a gun from scratch there may be some merit in a stock like the MOE which doesn't cost much more than the M4. I'm anxious to get my hands on a UBR for my in-progress 6.8 but honestly even I am having a hard time justifying a $250+ stock.
 

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I've tried:

- m93b
- ctr
- moe
- VLTOR club and emod
- ACE skeleton
- various m4 collapsible's

Only ones I still own are the VLTORs and the ACE skeleton. The ctr was a good solid stock, but the VLTOR is just so much more comfortable to shoot.
 

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FWIW, if dealing with a complete factory gun, I think the stock is one of the LAST pieces that should be changed out.
Yes, initially spend the money making the rifle shoot better or the shooter shoot better. Spend the extra money on better optics as one example. Optics, free float, better barrel, aftermarket trigger are all areas to improve performance. Then upgrade the stock after maximizing the performance of the rifle.

Keep in mind, by the time you load up a mid-pack rifle with all the latest gear, you could have bought a top tier rifle. The cost of upgrading to a UBR could get you into a nicer barrel or upper for example. Which would perform better, UBR stocked Stag or RRA rifle, or an AR15Performance upper with a standard stock?




 

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I have owned Vltors, both original and Emod, Magpul M93B, CTR, and MOE, and the stock.... stocks (A2 and M4). I have shot with an ACE (no idea as to model) and the LMT SOPMOD.

ALL of the stocks but the ACE have pulled the beard, but frankly the ACE was so ungodly uncomfortable, and offered NO improvement over the M4 stock, that I'd rather have the beard pulled. The LMT was probably the least pully of the remaining bunch.

FWIW, if dealing with a complete factory gun, I think the stock is one of the LAST pieces that should be changed out. I see a lot of people running out and buying wonder-this and fantasto-that with no appreciable benefit and without ever really trying the original. 'Bout the only legit complaint with the M4 stock is that it benefits from the addition of a non-slip surface at the butt. Most people that think they need to eliminate the rattle (outside of a perceived need for stealth) would be better served focusing on the shooting and not the stock. I equate worrying about stock rattle to the same mindset that leads to worrying about the front sight post getting in the way when using a red dot sight.

That said, I can be as much of a gear whore as the next guy (as evidenced by my safe), and I do think that if you're building a gun from scratch there may be some merit in a stock like the MOE which doesn't cost much more than the M4. I'm anxious to get my hands on a UBR for my in-progress 6.8 but honestly even I am having a hard time justifying a $250+ stock.
Rob,

I am certain that you know me as one of those people that really needs stealth. However, as it regards others, I believe that one's shooting involves confidence, and if you are constantly adjusting an uncomfortable stock, gaining a bad cheek weld, or wincing because the rattle just spooked that hog that was 39 yards away on a windless night....well, then your shooting suffers, doesn't it? the stock is what touches your face, your shoulder, and mates your body with the gun, more so than any other part of it. Some guys don't feel right with a stock that doesn't disappear when they shoulder the gun. I think you all know what I mean. I don't want to think about it because it is telling my brain that something is not comfortable, etc. So, don't be too quick to denigrate those that dote on their stocks. It is one of the handlebars of the gun.

If you are a paper or dirt shooter, Rob S's advice about stocks is sound. You are far better off worrying about optics and the barrel quality than the way your stock looks or sounds. If you actually use your gun to shoot animals that can harm you, and if you sneak up on them at night, or you really do need to be quiet because you hunt / stalk with them.........then I think the rattle of any part on your gun is going to be a concern.

Some of you cannot imagine the garish CLANG that even a small metal sling loop makes when you are in a river bottom, sneaking up on deer or hogs with 20 sets of ears, 10 X more acute than yours or mine....especially when there is no wind.

This illustrates how divergent uses of the gun dictate the different configurations which may or may not make sense to the individual. Despite the Space age techno gear that I must use for my guide service, I constantly try to strive for a simplicity in all of it. That is why I like handguards that offer removable rails and very simple stock mechanisms, with NO battery compartments, makeup canisters, Ham radio antennae, or floppy fixtures attached to them. :)
 
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