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I need a couple of suggestions for reticle scopes for prices less than $1000 and I need a couple of suggestions for scopes more than $1000. Reasons for the recommendations?
 

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Leupold Mark 4 series are nice for american made. And they ones on both sides of the scale your looking at.
 

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Zeiss

Swarovski

IOR

US Optics

Leupold

Nightforce

Schmidt and Bender

Better yet I'll sell you a 20 year old Tasco 3x9 for $1000, well for a friend how about $850? :lol:

Seriously, what are you going to be doing with the scope? That makes a huge difference.
 

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I've been looking at the Horus series of scopes. The Falcon 5-20x50, Raptor 4-16x50, or the Hawk 3-12x50. Anyone have experience with any of these?
 

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Wow that is a busy reticle. Pretty cool though. I like the 1x4 they have listed.
 

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paulosantos said:
jamesb74 said:
Wow that is a busy reticle. Pretty cool though. I like the 1x4 they have listed.
It looks busy until you try it.
Paulo,

Do you have any opinions or comments about Horus scopes and about the Horus reticle? Would you buy a Horus scope and which one?
 

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To go along with Paul's feedback, you may also ask John Boyette about the Horus Vision scopes. He uses them also and has posted feedback on them in other optics posts. They are interesting reticles, and you can now special order them in other brands like US Optics.

Here's a quote from John in a recent thread:

J.Boyette said:
A diffrent direction, but fills the need is the Horus 3-12x50 Hawk. LINK I own one on my 18" SPR Ar-15 and LOVE THIS OPTIC!!!!!!!!!!

John
 

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I've had the 1x4 talon and the Hawk.

Talon:
This was one of my favorite scopes I ever had and regret selling it. I sold because they were supposed to be coming out with a new model but they cancelled it so I got something else. The reticle is non caliber specific which is great for any caliber.

Hawk:
I tried the hawk for a couple of weeks just to try it out. I really like it but on the lower magnification, it was hard to use because the reticle was small.

The hours reticles appear busy, but if you use it right and look through the reticle to the target, you won't notice it. If you sit there and stare at the reticle it will look busy. If you learn how to use them properly, you will like them. Just like anything else, you just need to train with it.
 

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paulosantos said:
I've had the 1x4 talon and the Hawk.

Talon:
This was one of my favorite scopes I ever had and regret selling it. I sold because they were supposed to be coming out with a new model but they cancelled it so I got something else. The reticle is non caliber specific which is great for any caliber.

Hawk:
I tried the hawk for a couple of weeks just to try it out. I really like it but on the lower magnification, it was hard to use because the reticle was small.

The hours reticles appear busy, but if you use it right and look through the reticle to the target, you won't notice it. If you sit there and stare at the reticle it will look busy. If you learn how to use them properly, you will like them. Just like anything else, you just need to train with it.
Your right they do look pretty cool and I remember what John had to say about them. I really like the look of the Talon and after reading moe on their website. I will seriously be considering one of these for the future. After reading about the reticle's they don't look that busy anymore.
 

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The main questions to ask are these.

1. How much money do you have to spend?
2. How will this optic be used?
3. What are your shooting needs?
4. What are your goals and how can a riflescope help you get your goals met?

Once you cover these four questions, then we can go deeper. IF your goal is to shoot F-Class @ 600yds a fixed 10x with a Duplex reticle works GREAT!!!!!!!

In you want to shoot F-Class @ 600, 800, 900, 1000yds you might be better served with a I.O.R fixed 16x.

If you want to shoot tactical style matches, a fixed 10 or 16x will not work as well as a 3.5-10 variable.

See where I am going with this?

Do you hold or dial? Do you know what you do? Is your needs to enjoy load development and reload to find the best ammunition at 600yds? If so no need in a 3-18x

Tell me what you want to do, what you think you will do in life as time goes by.

Rifles come and go, riflescopes stay with you for a long time.

John
 

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J.Boyette said:
Do you hold or dial? Do you know what you do?

John
The issue I am finding is that if you try to buy a less expensive scope...under $250..It's HARD to find one with repeatable elevation and windage adjustments that would allow you to use come ups to dial in your target. Or...the cheaper scopes only have mushy imprecise .5 mil clicks which make fine adjustment impossible.You are nearly forced to use "holds" be it a BDC, Mil Dot or duplex reticle.

With a better quality scope over $300...you have a far better chance to find a scope that will repeat a square box through the full range of adjustment ....time and time again... One with well defined "clicks" in 1/8th mil increments. One that will instill confidence in hitting a distant target by adjustment alone.

Another issue is that if you are using the scope to punch paper...then the time necessary to determine the number of come ups and adjusting for distance is not an issue.

But...if you are hunting where a quick precise shot is needed...you may not have the time necessary to make elevation adjustments with only 5 seconds to take a shot before that 10 pt buck is through the clearing and back in a woodline. In that situation, a reticle with a vertical stadia that provides good references for "hold overs" makes much more sense. And in that scenario a less expensive scope may be acceptable.

Kerry
 
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