I have no doubt about those real world situations. It's all about shot placement in MOST situations. Obviously if you hit some one with a big enough projectile at a high enough velocity (KE) it can cause enough trauma to be lethal regardless of shot placement. Not so different that a .22LR that hits a femoral artery in a leg or a .50 Cal BMG blowing your arm off...both cause blood loss.I have first hand knowledge on GSWs. Ive seen an 18yo shot dead center chest with a 357 fmj walk out the next day with bandaids front and back. Tried to kill himself with his dads 6" colt in front of girlfriend. Ive seen multiple men riddled with 9mm fmj with very little blood loss. 3 rounds center chest with 115hp 9mm. If I can fing the xray I'll post it. Guy was in hosp 3 days total. Had a 30yo shot by a hunter in the left hip with 30/30. Most of his buttcheek was gone. Died on the table from massive blood loss. Wound was unreal. Bullet exoded after hittin pelvis. 38 wadcutter to the side of the head and guy lived. 22lr to neck doa. 22lr near the naval of a 14yo kid accidental died within 10 min in ED. 9mm through heavy clothing or fat dudes has never impressed me. Many dont make it through to the lungs.
Your examples prove that very point however that shot placement is the most critical followed second by penetration depth. Lung shots with a non-expanding handgun bullet are often not fatal if dealt with appropriately and the biggest threat is infection.
Had that .357 pierced a chamber of his heart or hit his spinal column or a large bone the story changes dramatically. Same with the guy shot in the chest. The heart is not a large target (much smaller than the head).
There are more people killed by .22LR than any other caliber in the world...simply because it's so cheap and so popular and so easy to shoot, enough shots to vital areas happen more by chance. The ratio of single shot kills relative to the number of shots fired is very low. It's just there are so many .22LR based fire arms out there.
Sounds like being fat may actually be a benefit if your get shot eh?
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