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http://gunowners.org/a042109.htm guys send letters to you representives. Below is a video about England and the people wanting there guns back now.
+1 on this, I had planned an AR purchase for a long time before the election, and did so 100% due to the availability of the Xtreme--Obama didn't scare me into buying anything. Then I found out that we gun owners can be our own worst enemies. I am one to ask for evidence and information before I get scared about stuff, and so far all the sky-is-falling posts I've seen since mid-Clinton Ban just produced a lot of blood pressure spikes--no more.caporider said:You know, there's a certain irony here.
All the Obama Administration has to do, apparently, is wait for rumor and innuedo to spread about coming gun/ammo control measures, and the folks that can afford to go and snap up everything in sight that is remotely gun-related, especially ammo and components for EBRs. This leaves regular folks without anything, or having to stretch credit cards to pay the newly inflated prices that artificial scarcity cause.
No new gun control legislation has passed, yet it is becoming increasingly difficult to purchase EBRs or ammo at anything approaching reasonable prices. Wolf for $400/k, anyone? Wait times are also months or even years long. Isn't this exactly what would happen if a new assault rifle ban or tax on ammo were to become law?
I agree we need to fight any effort on the government's part to introduce or pass new gun control measures, but there has to be a better way than spreading conjecture and rumor until everyone is in a blind panic. The majority of gun owners or prospective gun owners are not plugged in enough to winnow the wheat from the chaff. Heck, I still see at least a half dozen posts a week about the government' destroying once-fired MIL brass, even though this decision was reversed quite awhile ago.
Maybe it's just a matter of choosing our words carefully so we can see there is an issue at hand, yet we don't slip into panic mode.
Off my soapbox now, thanks for your time.
I agree that it is extreme thinking. :lol: :lol:Bull00 said:Ok... I'll try not to get off on a rant here. What people need to realize is that they are going to do anything possible to pass little bullshit laws under the table, this is a perfect example. Then once everything is in place, and Obamas Key players are in place (if you can guess who they will be) will have these little under the radar laws to back up legal arrests and confiscations of firearms in the courts. (also watch out for the racist laws, it's just a matter of time before they use racism against white people to start taking away guns). So the Key players? Obamas "private loyalist security forces". He knows he can't trust red blooded American soldiers and police officers to take guns away from other red blooded honest, hard working American civilians. So when he has his loyalist "Brown Shirts" in the streets in 4 years, he can send them out to harrass the populace. Obama has a massive following of ignorant fanatical liberals who would jump off their poarch to do his bidding. All he has to do is call for them. With the backing of trillions of our (OUR) hard earned tax dollars, he can build an entire society of fanatics willing to do anything for "Change and Hope" or whatever the fuck they will be calling it.
This is obviously the extreme of what is possible, and what we all know Fanatical Liberal Socialists want (they all say it in their own words and hints). But all we have to do is look at history guys... this has already happened dozens... hundreds, maybe thousands of times in the history of human civilization. It's only a matter of when it happens again. I'm of course hoping rationality and COMMON SENSE keeps anything like this from actually happening, but we all know it's a possibility... All it takes is socialism. It's what Socialism did for Nazi Germany...
I think it's time everyone went to the book store and bought a copy of Thomas Paines "Common Sense". If you can find it, i think every American needs to read it. Many of the same things that happened in 1776 are happening today...
+1Bull00 said:Exactly, so when you see his little organizations of "Obama youth" or anything like that.... then you'll know it's time to start thinking of what happened in Germany 70 years ago....
Very interesting thought...I know where I would put America :?sharpshooter08 said:State of the Union
The world's greatest civlilizations average a cycle of 200 years. Those societies progressed through this sequence:
From bondage to spiritual faith,
From spiritual faith to great courage,
From great courage to liberty,
From liberty to abundance,
From abundance to selfishness,
From selfishness to complacency,
From complacency to apathy,
From apathy to dependency,
From dependency back into bondage.
As the United States has passed its 200th birthday, and in view of the recent epidemic of immorality, I wonder how would America be assessed in the current position in this cycle.
Katrina was a totally different situation and many people don't agree with the way things were handled. You had guys going around with AK's shooting at people and they made a decicion to take guns. I don't agree with it, but at the same time, I wasn't down there getting shot at by pieces of shit with AK's, so it is hard to comment either way.SOrry but if you think there is no way ever the mil or Le woudl go house to house then I think history woudl prove you wrong. It only took a hurricane and a flood to have that exact thing happen in New Orleans. Now we can all put out various reasons how that was a very specific situation but it doesn't matter it happened. Many State Governors with emergnecy powers can suspend many rgun rights. They can snatch up all CCWs. Prohibit any and all gun use or what have you. all it takes is a state of emergnecy. While huge leaps are alwasy hard to comrehend imagine taking soomeone from 100 or 200 years ago in this country and letting them see what its has become now. I bet they woudl have said the same thing that there was no way it could have ever happened.
Everyone just needs to remember without the 2nd amemndment being held onto with teeth and nails fight every step of the way we can and will loose the abilty to be able to keep all the other rights and freedoms we have when push comes to shove.