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new Plinking ammo listed on SSAs sight

8488 Views 43 Replies 26 Participants Last post by Equalizer_2, Mar 12, 2009

dark1

Discussion Starter · Dec 2, 2008

was jsut checking out the SSA sight and say a new addison 6.8 SPC , 90 grain Speer TNT Plinking, 20 rounds/box finaley a cheep plinking round it ses it will be 12.99 a box i think i will get 1k rnds as soon as it is rely up for sale it ses out of stock atm

http://www.ssarmory.com/6.8_spc_ammo_pl ... round.aspx

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owenslee

· #2 · Dec 2, 2008

I received an email from Nancy this morning saying the plinking round will not be back in stock until March...

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It is our understanding that pushing these heavy, slow bullets presents challenges not found in typical loadings and that our experience is not unique. Subsequently, many in the industry have simply adopted a lower standard for accuracy for these subsonic loads. While this does seem reasonable and we don't criticize any in our industry that have taken this approach, it just won't work for Savage.
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dark1

Discussion Starter · #3 · Dec 2, 2008

then y do they teas us by putting it up on the sight now when we will have Christmas money to spend LOL

ArtFWTx

· #4 · Dec 2, 2008

Hopefully SSA will keep us posted on this ammo. It would be nice if they'd offer a group buy, or at least let us have first dibs on orders when it becomes available.

marinesg1012

· #5 · Dec 2, 2008

When I talked to Nancy last back in oct she said they were having issues getting the bullets in the numbers they need.

I think that is a common problem with all the manufactures right now...

gdonley308

· #6 · Dec 2, 2008

Maybe Art will jump in here but what we need is a 90-110gr FMJ. It should be cheaper to make than any of the other rounds and maybe it could sell for $10.00/20rds :idea: This would be their hottest seller and would fall right between the 5.56 and .308 FMJ prices. 8)

SnakeLogan

· #7 · Dec 2, 2008

Not sure if this has been answered before, but why doesn't Wolf make 6.8 SPC?

owenslee

· #8 · Dec 2, 2008

SnakeLogan said:
Not sure if this has been answered before, but why doesn't Wolf make 6.8 SPC?

Wolf is a fine match for a $195 SKS. Wolf sells tons of 7.62 x 39 for that purpose.

But a 6.8 SPC AR is very different. A $1200 or more 6.8 SPC deserves better ammo.

I suspect Wolf understands that the market would be very small for a low quality ammo to fit a high quality, accurate $1,000 to $2500 weapon.

I don't shoot anything with a steel case...ESPECIALLY with a lacquer coating that causes a failure to extract after it glues itself inside a hot chamber.

The polymer coated are better... but a steel case does not seal the chamber as well as a brass case. On a gas gun...that is one added variable to avoid.

Because Bill Alexander does it in the 6.5 doesn't make it a good idea.

A high quality less expensive round like the SSA 6.8 SPC Plinking round for $12.99 a box is an entirely different matter.

Just my $.02....

Kerry

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_____________________________________________________________________
300 AAC Blackout Chambering Cancelled:

Some time ago, Savage announced it would be chambering the Model 10 Precision Carbine in 300 AAC Blackout. Since that time, we have tested many variants of this cartridge in various barrel lengths and rates of twist. This exhaustive testing left us quite unsatisfied with the accuracy we were able to get from the subsonic loads in this chambering. Accuracy with the lighter, faster loads in this caliber was actually quite good. But we believe the real value in this cartridge lies in the use of subsonic loads for suppressed rifles. Therefore we have decided to scrap the project.
It is our understanding that pushing these heavy, slow bullets presents challenges not found in typical loadings and that our experience is not unique. Subsequently, many in the industry have simply adopted a lower standard for accuracy for these subsonic loads. While this does seem reasonable and we don't criticize any in our industry that have taken this approach, it just won't work for Savage.
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bedlamite

· #9 · Dec 2, 2008

owenslee said:
SnakeLogan said:

Not sure if this has been answered before, but why doesn't Wolf make 6.8 SPC?

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Wolf is a fine match for a $195 SKS. Wolf sells tons of 7.62 x 39 for that purpose.

But a 6.8 SPC AR is very different. A $1200 or more 6.8 SPC deserves better ammo.

I suspect Wolf understands that the market would be very small for a low quality ammo to fit a high quality, accurate $1,000 to $2500 weapon.

I don't shoot anything with a steel case...ESPECIALLY with a lacquer coating that causes a failure to extract after it glues itself inside a hot chamber.

The polymer coated are better... but a steel case does not seal the chamber as well as a brass case. On a gas gun...that is one added variable to avoid.

Because Bill Alexander does it in the 6.5 doesn't make it a good idea.

A high quality less expensive round like the SSA 6.8 SPC Plinking round for $12.99 a box is an entirely different matter.

Just my $.02....

Kerry

Wolf does sell 6.5 Grendel. Enough people made enough noise that they added it to their line. Either way, I won't shoot steel case either.

gdonley308

· #10 · Dec 2, 2008

Privi Partizan makes the Wolf "Gold" line of ammo, well it's made in the same plant anyway. Privi is pretty good stuff brass cases, boxer primed, you can reload it. I've shot a lot of Privi in .308 and 5.56 it's pretty clean and although not loaded hot like S&B that could be a good thing. I sure would like to see Privi or Wolf "Gold" come out with a 6.8 round too! :idea: I can't believe that they made a 6.5 when the demand is way higher for 6.8. :shock: I did email them, S&B, Winchester USA, Federal American Eagle, and Fiochi telling them of the market for a reasonable fmj plinking round. :idea: S&B is the only company to get back to me and told me of their 6.8 plastic tip that was on it's way at that time to CTD. Unfortunately they came out with ammo that is the same or slightly more than SSA so why would I by S&B? :?

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Test_User

· #11 · Dec 9, 2008

Well a 6.5 guy tried reloading he case of one of the Wolf and it blew up with a moderate load. The thread is over on 65 titled I blew up my gun or something to that effect. I didn't read it over to carefully as I really could care less but I got is was a wolf brass case he tried to reload and it was below a max load.

gdonley308

· #12 · Dec 9, 2008

Tim_W said:
Well a 6.5 guy tried reloading he case of one of the Wolf and it blew up with a moderate load. The thread is over on 65 titled I blew up my gun or something to that effect. I didn't read it over to carefully as I really could care less but I got is was a wolf brass case he tried to reload and it was below a max load.

Maybe the cases were stressed by the chamber?? My friend reloads 5.56 with Wolf Gold brass and has had no problems at 5.56 pressures?

billclo

· #13 · Dec 9, 2008

I would think that a 90gr FMJ slug would be decent for .mil use if you can keep the velocity above 3000fps so that it has a good fragmentation range. Of course I don't know squat about how to design such a bullet though...

gdonley308

· #14 · Dec 9, 2008

"Art please help, must have $10.00 a box fmj plinking ammo"!

This would boost the popularity of the 6.8 off the charts which could be good or bad depending how you look at it. :?

caporider

· #15 · Dec 9, 2008

SnakeLogan said:
Not sure if this has been answered before, but why doesn't Wolf make 6.8 SPC?

Wolf makes 6.5G because it is based on the 7.62x39 case... It's a very easy transition for them to make 6.5G brass.

Wolf doesn't make 6.8SPC because the volume simply isn't there for them to tool up for a case that is unrelated to anything they've ever made, then sell for $10/20 rounds.

marinesg1012

· #16 · Dec 9, 2008

I dont mind wolf for my 556 carbines, but I will not shoot it in any of my better quality uppers.

I would rather have SSA or Federal or hornady or even Remington to fix their ammo and load a plinking round for it.

Aramark

· #17 · Jan 19, 2009

i thought the 6.8 SPC, 90 grain Speer TNT was going to be alittle cheaper than the 6.8 SPC , 90 grain Sierra Varminter, but i see that it is not.

kalwasart

· #18 · Jan 19, 2009

Our quoted price and the final delivered price we got on the TNT's were far apart. Our bullet machines (which we purchased over a year ago) for the plinking round we be (hopefully) on line in March 09, it has the highest priorty in our shop. It will only be sold thru our website and dealers, For a dealer to sell the plinking round they will have to buy it directly from us, this will keep the cost down. If we get a middle man involved the price goes thru the roof.

Art - SSA

marinesg1012

· #19 · Jan 19, 2009

Art i will buy a case or two of the plinking rounds as soon as they are available. just let us know when we can order....

dark1

Discussion Starter · #20 · Jan 19, 2009

yes a case or 2 or 3 i do not hand load yet it will be grate

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