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I have seen my share of the AR-15 family. from M16A2's to M4A1's to MK-12 mod 1 and mod 2's. these four are the best I have ever used. All are build by Compass Lake Engineering with Douglas 1/7 twists. I will say this, you may spend more on a barrel brand, but with these Douglas barrels I would not waste the money.

I called Frank White and asked for the best contour he could do for some 800yds and under gun's that are light and a tack driver. So he built these.

All of them are as follows:
.223 Douglas 1/7 twist
Different MagPul Stocks
JP triggers
Daniel Defense LITE hand-guards 12" on the 16" barrels and 14" DD-lite on the 18 and 20 inch barrels. I went with Lefty's and righty's due to the fact I am a true left handed shooter and I could have students that might need a lefty AR-15 one day.


ALL RIFLES shoot SUB-MOA like 3 inch groups @ 500yds. EXCEPT the 16" with the ACOG, too hard to hold it under MOA @ 500, but did do MOA @ 500yds.


16" Stag Lefty upper ACOG



16" Accu-Point 3-9 Mil-Dot


18" Stag Lefty upper Horus 3-12 Hawk 14 inch DD lite rail



20" IOR-3-18 FFP 14 inch DD lite rail


I shot FGMM 69grn SMK ammunition, and also some GA Arms 68grn ammunition. I have some 77 SMK setting here and will use it ASAP on my next day off.

anyhow, take your poison all are the BEST.

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Nice sticks
 

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Do you use the Horus reticle? How do you like it?

It's an interesting set up that reticle they have. No need for turrets. Just takes a new way of thinking.
 

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Do you use the Horus reticle? How do you like it?

It's an interesting set up that reticle they have. No need for turrets. Just takes a new way of thinking.
Yes I do, as you can see here the H425 is just right for a AR-15



I run a 300yd ZERO, so each red dot is my DOPE for 100, 200, 400, 500, 600, 700, 800 yds



With running a300yd ZERO I can maximize the H425 for longer range windage better. I think its a waste to ZERO @ 100yds with this optic. On a .308win I would run a 400yd ZERO and just hold under from 400 and closer.

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J.Boyette said:
THellURider said:
Do you use the Horus reticle? How do you like it?

It's an interesting set up that reticle they have. No need for turrets. Just takes a new way of thinking.
Yes I do, as you can see here the H425 is just right for a AR-15



I run a 300yd ZERO, so each red dot is my DOPE for 100, 200, 400, 500, 600, 700, 800 yds



With running a300yd ZERO I can maximize the H425 for longer range windage better. I think its a waste to ZERO @ 100yds with this optic. On a .308win I would run a 400yd ZERO and just hold under from 400 and closer.

John

Ya, when I got to use one my first thought was this would be perfect for a medium range rig like an AR15 where you sometimes need to make "snap" shots. Been thinking of picking on up myself. I just wish they had an illuminated scope in the 4-12 range. How do you like their optics? I've been told it's Nikon so shouldn't be too bad.

Also, heard a rumor that IIRC Zeiss/Swarovski will have the Horus reticle available in the new year. I hope that's true.

Excellent system for the trained marksman.
 

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Many company's offer the Horus reticle. I think the Hawk is the best bang for the buck out there due to the fact, if you have not used the system and want to try it, its a $500 scope.

Buy this one, try it out, if you like it, keep it, or sale it to fund a higher end brand with a Horus in it.

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J.Boyette said:
Many company's offer the Horus reticle. I think the Hawk is the best bang for the buck out there due to the fact, if you have not used the system and want to try it, its a $500 scope.

Buy this one, try it out, if you like it, keep it, or sale it to fund a higher end brand with a Horus in it.

John
What other brands offer the Horus reticle?
 

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The ones I know of are:

Leupold
US Optics
S&B

thats all I know of, but I bet theres more.

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S&B and leupold do a production run with the ret or do you have to call and ask for it?
 

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S&B and leupold do a production run with the ret or do you have to call and ask for it?
With S&B and Leupold you have to call and ask for it. I know the guys down at SFSC have them and like them alot.

On the Horus website you can see a demo tape of the using a MK-4 Leupold.

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I love the Horus. They dropped the Talon that had the red dot on the second plane and the ret on the first. Not sure why but I had wished I had acted sooner on that one.. Anyways for shooting unknown distances its awesome.
 
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