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And this is really just Biden being a dotaring moron as usual. You know what he meant... But he still cheated and everyone knows it.
No argument from me that Biden is a moron. However, his statement gives reasonable suspicion (if not probable cause) to look into this even more than just superficially.

It's my belief that if this moron IS given the "win" in the end, his party will have him medically removed from power, and you will be calling KH an unthinkable title.
 

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Uhhh... (lionfish) go back and re-read my post. I did say ANY fraud. I was NOT partisan in that statement.
I missed that apologies. Interesting video, thanks for putting it out there. I don't think it is an admission of anything it could easily be a voter fraud investigation organization. But that is neither here nor there. I doubt I can get you thinking trump is anything but a good president, and you will never get me to think he is anything but a poor president.
However, I appreciate your views. Think it best we agree to disagree, we've slid way off topic for probably too long.
Thanks for the conversation.
 

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I missed that apologies. Interesting video, thanks for putting it out there. I don't think it is an admission of anything it could easily be a voter fraud investigation organization. But that is neither here nor there. I doubt I can get you thinking trump is anything but a good president, and you will never get me to think he is anything but a poor president.
However, I appreciate your views. Think it best we agree to disagree, we've slid way off topic for probably too long.
Thanks for the conversation.
Or it could be him admitting, due to his failing mind, that his party has orchestrated massive voter fraud. But I doubt i can get you to think anything other than what your handlers tell you to think.

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I missed that apologies. Interesting video, thanks for putting it out there. I don't think it is an admission of anything it could easily be a voter fraud investigation organization. But that is neither here nor there. I doubt I can get you thinking trump is anything but a good president, and you will never get me to think he is anything but a poor president.
However, I appreciate your views. Think it best we agree to disagree, we've slid way off topic for probably too long.
Thanks for the conversation.
No offense taken.

Actually... it's not that I'm an overwhelmingly huge DJT fan, as I am realistic in my stand that when the choice is him, or Hildebeast, Sleepy Joe, or his right hand she-minion... there's NO question in my mind where I'm voting. DJT was elected to do a job, and he appears to be doing that job to the best of his abilities, given the level of attack he's had to weather. I appreciate his efforts.
 

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I missed that apologies. Interesting video, thanks for putting it out there. I don't think it is an admission of anything it could easily be a voter fraud investigation organization. But that is neither here nor there. I doubt I can get you thinking trump is anything but a good president, and you will never get me to think he is anything but a poor president.
However, I appreciate your views. Think it best we agree to disagree, we've slid way off topic for probably too long.
Thanks for the conversation.
I don't think I've ever seen anyone here say President Trump is a good president. But here are the qualities he does have:

He stands up to the communists and tells them to go stuff it.
He stands up for our military and our LEO/First Responders
He stands up for The United States of America.
He loves this country
There's no denying the fact that he's brought this economy to exceptional hights
Unemployment WAS at an all time low until the democrats shut it down. They were so thankful for this pandemic, they can't wait to shut it down some more.
And he's not a politician.

Now why don't you tell us all how he's a poor president. And don't do the orange man bad thing. 5 years of that is enough.
 

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I don't think I've ever seen anyone here say President Trump is a good president. But here are the qualities he does have:

He stands up to the communists and tells them to go stuff it.
He stands up for our military and our LEO/First Responders
He stands up for The United States of America.
He loves this country
There's no denying the fact that he's brought this economy to exceptional hights
Unemployment WAS at an all time low until the democrats shut it down. They were so thankful for this pandemic, they can't wait to shut it down some more.
And he's not a politician.

Now why don't you tell us all how he's a poor president. And don't do the orange man bad thing. 5 years of that is enough.
I would add he's more of a constitutionalist than any president since Reagan.

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Same thing happened in 2018 when that jerk Amon Bundy ran for Governor - he sucked enough votes from Laxalt that Sisolack was able to win. What a shit show.
How was Ammon Bundy allowed to run for Governor there while being a resident of Emmett, Idaho???

Never mind! it was his brother Ryan Bundy that did that. I was wondering how an Idaho resident could qualify to run for Gov there.
 

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I don't think I've ever seen anyone here say President Trump is a good president. But here are the qualities he does have:

He stands up to the communists and tells them to go stuff it.
He stands up for our military and our LEO/First Responders
He stands up for The United States of America.
He loves this country
There's no denying the fact that he's brought this economy to exceptional hights
Unemployment WAS at an all time low until the democrats shut it down. They were so thankful for this pandemic, they can't wait to shut it down some more.
And he's not a politician.

Now why don't you tell us all how he's a poor president. And don't do the orange man bad thing. 5 years of that is enough.
My biggest complaint is he has done nothing for our veterans that are on the street that are still suffering from PTSD and committing suicide daily. I have other complaints but just wait till you guys get a blast of Harris. This is what happens when we buy into the horse crap both parties have been feeding everyone. It is time to flush the system of the social elite from both sides of the aisle. The gun control crap that Biden/Harris are going to try to achieve is California Gun Law on steroids. The 10 day wait was already ruled unconstitutional when Harris was AG in CA and she filed an appeal and kept the 10 day wait period which is still in effect even though it was ruled unconstitutional.
Glad I am in Idaho now where we are the land of the free even if there is no ammo to buy. Good thing I reload and have enough components to last at least 10 years. I am going to go back to bed and pull the cover over my head till 2024 and pray we get some worthy candidates to choose from.
 

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My biggest complaint is he has done nothing for our veterans that are on the street that are still suffering from PTSD and committing suicide daily. I have other complaints but just wait till you guys get a blast of Harris. This is what happens when we buy into the horse crap both parties have been feeding everyone. It is time to flush the system of the social elite from both sides of the aisle. The gun control crap that Biden/Harris are going to try to achieve is California Gun Law on steroids. The 10 day wait was already ruled unconstitutional when Harris was AG in CA and she filed an appeal and kept the 10 day wait period which is still in effect even though it was ruled unconstitutional.
Glad I am in Idaho now where we are the land of the free even if there is no ammo to buy. Good thing I reload and have enough components to last at least 10 years. I am going to go back to bed and pull the cover over my head till 2024 and pray we get some worthy candidates to choose from.
Can you honestly say he has done less than other presidents about the homeless veteran situation? I don't think you can. You have never liked Trump and you have made it abundantly clear these last 4 years. I have yet to hear a good reason for your dislike. Hatred would be a better description.
 

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Can you honestly say he has done less than other presidents about the homeless veteran situation? I don't think you can. You have never liked Trump and you have made it abundantly clear these last 4 years. I have yet to hear a good reason for your dislike. Hatred would be a better description.
There's a bad case of TDS going around. Still waiting to hear how he's such a poor president.
 

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I can honestly say that at this point in time I believe Donald J Trump will be president for the next four years.
 

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Now why don't you tell us all how he's a poor president. And don't do the orange man bad thing. 5 years of that is enough.
Just a few things come to mind.
His lack of respect for our planet,
  • The Paris accords may not have been perfect, but work to make them better, bailing solves nothing.
  • Cutting.National Parks budgets by 587 million
  • Cutting EPA by 2.4 billion
His disbelief in science and doing little and finally nothing about the pandemic.
Diverting funds from the military to build his wall that Mexico was to pay for.
Little or no funding to improve the security of our elections from hacking
His rhetoric fuels hatred in this country, not that he was the first to do so, just that he is constantly doing so.
I think he loves $$ more than this country and attempts to use his podium to enrich himself. G2 at Doral comes to mind.

I think we all have different values that we look for in a president and our personal values are what guide us to which President
is good and which poor. Bush had issues, Obama had issues, so will Biden, and Trump certainly does.
- Isn't there something in the constitution about that type of behavior not being allowed?

I think trump is by far the loudest president there has been and honestly, that has guided my dislike of him as a President and a person.
That has little to do with what makes him good or bad, I'm just suffering from major trump burnout the last 10 days of silence (I don't
do social media) has been heaven. Just hope that biden will be less visible

Think I'm done with this discussion, enough politics for me.
It has been interesting, thanks
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Just a few things come to mind.
His lack of respect for our planet,
  • The Paris accords may not have been perfect, but work to make them better, bailing solves nothing.
  • Cutting.National Parks budgets by 587 million
  • Cutting EPA by 2.4 billion
His disbelief in science and doing little and finally nothing about the pandemic.
Diverting funds from the military to build his wall that Mexico was to pay for.
Little or no funding to improve the security of our elections from hacking
His rhetoric fuels hatred in this country, not that he was the first to do so, just that he is constantly doing so.
I think he loves $$ more than this country and attempts to use his podium to enrich himself. G2 at Doral comes to mind.

I think we all have different values that we look for in a president and our personal values are what guide us to which President
is good and which poor. Bush had issues, Obama had issues, so will Biden, and Trump certainly does.
- Isn't there something in the constitution about that type of behavior not being allowed?

I think trump is by far the loudest president there has been and honestly, that has guided my dislike of him as a President and a person.
That has little to do with what makes him good or bad, I'm just suffering from major trump burnout the last 10 days of silence (I don't
do social media) has been heaven. Just hope that biden will be less visible

Think I'm done with this discussion, enough politics for me.
It has been interesting, thanks
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You obviously are a believer in what ever the MSM tells you.
 

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You obviously are a believer in what ever the MSM tells you.
Oh it's bad isn't it, I need some time to debunk it all with sources or common sense, any help? Pure Trump Derangement Syndrome. It's all straight out of the leftist handbook and talking points.

This guy just might be a globalist is my only guess, wasted vote on Boe Jiden. But now that he's fixin' to get dumped on for the leftist propaganda he's gonna bail out. Reminds me of someone who blocks the left lane.
 

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You obviously are a believer in what ever the MSM tells you.
Don't think so, I had to google MSM to see what it was. So now I am a Socialist?

This guy just might be a globalist is my only guess, wasted vote on Boe Jiden. But now that he's fixin' to get dumped on for the leftist propaganda he's gonna bail out. Reminds me of someone who blocks the left lane.
And a Globalist, hmmm. Well, capitalism had worked well for me so I cannot complain, global government, nah, not for me, global environmental responsibility, gladly, anytime, shame
if you believe that is others responsibility.

You know, I was asked for my opinion and I gave it. I didn't call other peoples opinions of trump right wing propaganda, I enjoy discussing opinions. By the way, I can fact check as
well as the next guy, but you'd call the newspapers I read or the news channels I watch leftist propaganda (although I do check in on Fox once in awhile, I find Hannity good for a laugh).
Yes, socially, I lean to the left. Financially, I am more conservative. That is acceptable where I am from. Sorry if you cannot see it that way.

I have not been rude to anyone here and have tried to be respectful of others. Mostly that has been returned, however. labels? Those bother me some, I don't label others until I have known them awhile, I find it a tad rude.
 

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Most folks here are good decent polite mature adults.
Name calling is admitting facts do not support your point of few. How about we relax and enjoy this unique moment in history. This IS History in the making. The Constitution provides ways to decide who wins. The votes are cast, most counted....and the official electoral vote will take place on December 14th. The Official Final tally will be certified on January 3rd, 2021. Nothing anyone says will change that.
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Don't think so, I had to google MSM to see what it was. So now I am a Socialist?



And a Globalist, hmmm. Well, capitalism had worked well for me so I cannot complain, global government, nah, not for me, global environmental responsibility, gladly, anytime, shame
if you believe that is others responsibility.

You know, I was asked for my opinion and I gave it. I didn't call other peoples opinions of trump right wing propaganda, I enjoy discussing opinions. By the way, I can fact check as
well as the next guy, but you'd call the newspapers I read or the news channels I watch leftist propaganda (although I do check in on Fox once in awhile, I find Hannity good for a laugh).
Yes, socially, I lean to the left. Financially, I am more conservative. That is acceptable where I am from. Sorry if you cannot see it that way.

I have not been rude to anyone here and have tried to be respectful of others. Mostly that has been returned, however. labels? Those bother me some, I don't label others until I have known them awhile, I find it a tad rude.
Oh I thought you were done? Well then, lets keep going. If you think I'm being rude then you haven't yet to begun see me defile this thread. And you're the one touting socialist ideas that are detrimental to the way our society lives, so maybe you don't realize it but you sound like a globalist and you sound like you've got the TDS. Might want to get that checked out. It's extremely offensive to constitutionalist people who practice common sense.

- So how about the EPA? What do they do that they can't have 2.4billion dollars cut off of their fat, bloated corpse? You're acting like just because he cut back on a government agency that is far too overreaching and powerful that he doesn't care about the environment. Shame of you for accusing him of that without any evidence. Did he say he hopes the environment gets worse and that he doesn't care about pollution? I don't think he said that. What's the funding on the EPA minus the 2.4bil? Who cares, they're assholes.

- The Paris Accords? You're gonna claim Donald Trump is a poor president because he got us out of a garbage deal that will do nothing but enslave the United States to the rest of the world and their radical climate change agenda? What's in it for us? The planet is fine, it's gonna be fine. And you know damn well who needs to change if it's going to make any difference, the US is doing their part, but they can't do it all. Shame on you for wishing to subjugate the American people to a totalitarian ideology.

- National Park Budgets? I'd need to look more into this but sounds like it was 587 billion dollars we don't have. Might be something that needs to suffer while we build the greatest economy known to man. Then we can go back and tend to the forests and the squirrels... I guess. Again, I would have to look at what's suffering, maybe I could disagree with some of the cuts to national parks

-Disbelief is science? That's leftist propaganda. Sorry, i'll call you on that one. That's just you repeating what they want you to hear. Is he allowed to believe in God? Is that a problem? I'm guessing it is...

-The pandemic? Really? You need to look at the numbers dude. Roughly .07% of the population has died from COVID-19, and when you break those down, it's even smaller based on healthy people (.06% of the .07% were healthy and COVID-19 killed them). 2.8 million people die in this country every year. It's gonna be fine. Sorry if anyone has had it, or anyone has lost a loved one, not much you can do about it now. We've been wearing masks everywhere we go for 8 months and it hasn't stopped the spread. So you tell me, either embrace it and get a vaccine going (which is gonna happen under Trump, it's fixing to roll out but maybe you didn't hear? Probly not) or what? We just hide in our closets? Trump did what he had to do to keep the United States of America from crumbling beneath us, which is just what the leftists want. They want us to fail, they hate what America is and they hate all of us. They say it all the time, so excuse me if you think I'm a little bitter after listening to 5 years of garbage communists telling me what a Nazi I am for my beliefs. Oh, and what happened to the flu? It magically dissapeared?

- His rhetoric fuels hatred? Nope, sorry, you can go back and listen to the ENTIRE sound bites and you'll see he's been taken out of context on all of the key "racists, mysoginist, white supremacist, nazi, hitler, whatever else you can think of" statements. It's a bunch of bullshit and if you don't know it you need to educate yourself before you make a statement like that.

(ok the one where he said he can walk up and grab em by the "you know what" was a little much but that was a private conversation between two men about how being a billionaire is great because women love to have sex with billionaires and they'll let you do whatever you want. $$$$ Tell me that ain't true?

Don't grab women by anything kids... )

Uhhh, but You know who has been fueling hate filled rhetoric for the last 5 years? I'll give you a guess. I will refer you to the link below, that's your homework for the week. watch all of those and you might get an idea of what these people are really about.


-Oh he likes money more than the country? So he left his billions of dollars.... all his fortune, his private life, everything he had going where everyone loved him and no one gave a damn what he said. So he could put up with this garbage? Again, refer to the videos above. Maybe they'll give you some insight.

I dunno, that's just the stuff off the top of my head. And I don't care if you think I'm rude. You don't want to be called a globalist then don't act like one. The US is doing more than most countries to take care of the environment, but the over reach of a climate change ideology that subjugates it's citizens is too much. The climate always changes, but some how that's become political?

When politicians are SOOOOO adamant about something that they're willing to tax you and control your life, the citizens need to beware.

Gun Control
Climate Change

And all of the other desperate causes they're pushing forward in their agenda... beware.
 

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Most folks here are good decent polite mature adults.
Name calling is admitting facts do not support your point of few. How about we relax and enjoy this unique moment in history. This IS History in the making. The Constitution provides ways to decide who wins. The votes are cast, most counted....and the official electoral vote will take place on December 14th. The Official Final tally will be certified on January 3rd, 2021. Nothing anyone says will change that.
Let's Be respectful American 6.8ers again...ok? 🤠
Not necessarily. It could well go to a 12th amendment vote in the house.
 
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