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Is military experience a must to qualify to be President of the U.S. ?

I don't think so, after all we already have a War College, a Dept of Defense (and i wish they would revert back to The Department of War), the Pentagon. All the Commander in Chief needs to do is provide a mission, then get the fnck out of the way. The Commander in Chief should also be responsible for keeping Congress out of the Armed Forces way. We've already seen the damage when politicians try to micro manage combat.

If I were Commander in Chief, I'd summon the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs and tell him, "eradicate terrorists, bring me the plan and how much it will cost",,,and then get the fnck out of the way.
 

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John Kerry had military experience, so I don't think that is a mandated credential. I personally don't care if they do since their overall attitude towards the country is more important. I would like to see less peace keeping, hand shake deployments and use the military only when it is necessary to destroy something. We have enough hospital/school/soccerfield building organizations, fighters don't need to do that. Set a clear objective and execute. The President's role is to ensure that objective is for the good of USA before pulling the kill lever.

Like we said in Iraq, don't throw food/candy from your combat vehicles to the locals. The only thing that should be coming from combat vehicles is bullets. Somebody else can make friends.
 

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kerry should have been tried for treason after his paris "testimony" , sucker reminds me of droopy dog, and what's with him sticking his tongue out every 10 seconds when he attempts english?
 

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kerry should have been tried for treason after his paris "testimony" , sucker reminds me of droopy dog, and what's with him sticking his tongue out every 10 seconds when he attempts english?
I think that happens after your brain dies, at least that seems like what happened to Kerry.
 

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I pretty well know where non military would vote on the subject. I'd be interested to know how current and former service men vote.

Problem I see with requiring prior service is you will still have exactly what you have today. Career politicians will send their kids into the military for a minimum stint, then put them on the fast track for DC.
 

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I'm a veteran.
John Kerry would not get my vote, even if he pooped oder green jeeps.
He and Hanoi Jane should have been tried for treasonous.
We will never forget.
 

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I see no need. We have had presidents in the past who were great generals but mediocre at best as a president. Eisenhower comes to mind. I believe it is more important that a president has good military advisers and trusts their judgment than it is to have served themselves.
 

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I believe the US absolutely must adopt a form of compulsory service for its very survival. We have entire generations who have never learned discipline or a work ethic. In my opinion, 18 months of service, either in the military or a national service corps, would provide the youth of our country with a foundation of civilization so many are lacking today.

During the term of service the young person, male, female, or other, should be taught US history and the foundations of constitutional government. By requiring they be on time for classes or work assignments, they would be a learning an essential life skill.

Those who opt for military service (it should be optional) would get the education youth used to get when drafted. In either option, daily exercise, proper eating habits, and basic work skills such as job interviewing, employment dress codes and similar should be stressed.

As payment for their 18 months of service, each successful graduate should receive one year of tuition and expenses in a suitable community school.

Fifteen years after adopting this program, every candidate for elected office must be a graduate of national service, without exception.
 

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I see no need. We have had presidents in the past who were great generals but mediocre at best as a president. Eisenhower comes to mind. I believe it is more important that a president has good military advisers and trusts their judgment than it is to have served themselves.
I agree I am former military. They just need to have good advisors and then be able to take their advice. I also agree Kerry should have been tried with treason. He fits right in with the current administration.
 

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I believe the US absolutely must adopt a form of compulsory service for its very survival. We have entire generations who have never learned discipline or a work ethic. In my opinion, 18 months of service, either in the military or a national service corps, would provide the youth of our country with a foundation of civilization so many are lacking today.

During the term of service the young person, male, female, or other, should be taught US history and the foundations of constitutional government. By requiring they be on time for classes or work assignments, they would be a learning an essential life skill.

Those who opt for military service (it should be optional) would get the education youth used to get when drafted. In either option, daily exercise, proper eating habits, and basic work skills such as job interviewing, employment dress codes and similar should be stressed.

As payment for their 18 months of service, each successful graduate should receive one year of tuition and expenses in a suitable community school.

Fifteen years after adopting this program, every candidate for elected office must be a graduate of national service, without exception.
I have been preaching something similar for years. Not necessarily military because the militarily doesn't want people that don't want to be there but a mandatory 2 years of national service of some sort.
 

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Why should the military or other national service program be burdened with that? The education system already exists for that purpose. Rather than push for a new program, push to reform the education system into what it should be.
 

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Why should the military or other national service program be burdened with that? The education system already exists for that purpose. Rather than push for a new program, push to reform the education system into what it should be.
I wasn't talking about an educational program so much. What they would learn though is some of the things you learn in the military like discipline, teamwork etc. I wouldn't expect the military to be burdened with anyone who didn't want to be there. It seems to work pretty well for the Israeli's.
 

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Why should the military or other national service program be burdened with that? The education system already exists for that purpose. Rather than push for a new program, push to reform the education system into what it should be.
the education system has already been reformed to the point of paralysis and just plain stupid
 

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No Woodstock, you did not but a previous poster did.

CrayJ, thats exactly what I'm saying, but perhaps reform was the wrong word. In addition to a basic education they should be teaching discipline and teamwork, as well as other important lessons that will help them fit and function in society. Those 12 years are some of the most important formative years, they should be used. Instead they teach a test and provide a taxpayer funded babysitting service.

I don't necessarily disagree with some sort of national service program, but that's more than I'm going to tackle posting from my cell.
 

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abolish the federal dept of education would be a good starting point. let the states handle it. and i agree with you josh
 

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abolish the federal dept of education would be a good starting point. let the states handle it. and i agree with you josh
I agree with that. The Federal government has no business in the education business.
 

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I believe the US absolutely must adopt a form of compulsory service for its very survival. We have entire generations who have never learned discipline or a work ethic. In my opinion, 18 months of service, either in the military or a national service corps, would provide the youth of our country with a foundation of civilization so many are lacking today.

During the term of service the young person, male, female, or other, should be taught US history and the foundations of constitutional government. By requiring they be on time for classes or work assignments, they would be a learning an essential life skill.

Those who opt for military service (it should be optional) would get the education youth used to get when drafted. In either option, daily exercise, proper eating habits, and basic work skills such as job interviewing, employment dress codes and similar should be stressed.

As payment for their 18 months of service, each successful graduate should receive one year of tuition and expenses in a suitable community school.

Fifteen years after adopting this program, every candidate for elected office must be a graduate of national service, without exception.
This sounds like something I could easily support. This needs to be mandatory for all to participate in the line of service they perform for this nation. And if you fail to comply then there is no option for social services until you do.
 

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Anytime the gov't mandates something, it turns into a budget drain and bureaucratic system embedded with corruption. Good intentions maybe but not freedom. The idea of today's crappy work ethic is often stated in contrast to prior generations. Did their values come from government programs? God and family can provide purpose for work and life, but sadly are contrary to many social trends, or worse, substituted by government programs. Also, looking at veteran suicide and homelessness rates today, service may not be the answer and conscription even worse.

Work for welfare is a different subject all together though and one that I am more supportive of.
 

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Conservatives need to quit complaining about the education system and get teaching degrees and replace all the socialists that took education over in the late 1950's.
 

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Conservatives need to quit complaining about the education system and get teaching degrees and replace all the socialists that took education over in the late 1950's.
conservative complaint about education, to my view, is centered on the huge amount of money thrown at the system with no visible improvement, parents not allowed to send their children to the school of their choice, the federal government forcing states to do what they consider to be correct with the threat of withholding funds (even tho the feds have never visited that school district), and the unions controlling the whole thing.

my daughter is a Master of Science - Certified Speech Pathologist, she also teaches in a class room. she is a conservative. many of her students only get meals at school, and the feds have mandated the meals be tasteless healthy crap (by their definitions) and the children won't eat them. i send her money every month to buy healthy snacks for her to feed the ones most in need, our idea of healthy snacks include peanut butter & jelly sandwiches, fresh fruit,etc. she tries to be sure they have something in their backpacks to take home so they'll have a before bedtime meal. the feds demand certain courses be taught, even to the youngest in kindergarten. the youngest need to practice coloring, cutting and paste projects...not science and math beyond their ability. integrating the youngest into common "play" time skills helps socialize them to learn how get along with others, that's a hellluva lot more important than science to such little ones. seeing they have food and basic hygiene (tooth brushes, soap) is more important.

in short the feds use a cookie cutter approach, all students are the same. we know that's not possible or true, but the feds will not fund any "boots on the ground" common sense and force the states to do it the bureaucratic way.

abolish the department of education, keep one employee to send the states a check every month, let the states teach the children the skills appropriate to their age level.
 
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