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Midway Hornady 2nds ?

3260 Views 13 Replies 9 Participants Last post by XLR8, May 4, 2016

crayj

Discussion Starter · Apr 28, 2016

just got an email from midway adverting factory 2nds, are these hornady bullets? they have the 120 gr and the 110 gr with the polymer tips

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Texas Hog Man

· #2 · Apr 28, 2016 (Edited)

110 v-max : http://www.midwayusa.com/product/97...-tail-with-cannelure-box-of-100-bulk-packaged (read reviews, they say they are 110 v-max)

most likely the 120 is the 120 sst as I am not aware of any other .277 poly tipped with cannelure other than the 120sst : http://www.midwayusa.com/product/12...ip-spitzer-boat-tail-box-of-100-bulk-packaged

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crayj

Discussion Starter · #3 · Apr 28, 2016

thanks, that's what i was wondering

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muddyz

· #4 · Apr 29, 2016

I thought the 120SSTs had red tips?

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crayj

Discussion Starter · #5 · Apr 29, 2016

the ad says it's a generic pic and not necessarily the product advertised

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jofus

· #6 · Apr 29, 2016

The FTX I got from a previous batch had grey instead of red tip

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they do that a lot. they are the hornady bullets. Essentially for every bore diameter take the
bullet weight and construction and it is the same bullet but with a gray tip vs. red .... and a lot cheaper!

SST, amax, FTX, etc...

I never found anything off with any hornady factory seconds. they have to call them seconds because
they cannot be branded or something but the bullets are the same weight spreads and everything.
I just picked up a bunch of FTX and also 30 cal heavy bullets for the winmag.

Midway has a huge selling power and I bet they get these bulk deals and get over stock rolling for hornady
like nobody else.

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bedlamite

· #8 · Apr 29, 2016 (Edited)

There was a batch of Vmax seconds from Midway several years ago that about 25-30% had bad bases and were not accurate. They changed to the gray tips the year after these came out.

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1stmarine

· #9 · Apr 30, 2016

wow. Those in the pic seem worse than pulled seconds!

I never ran into bad bullets. Some discoloration here and there sometimes but I have found this in brand new hornady red tips too.
The good thing with Midway is that if you open a box is all screwed up you can send it back. No questions asked.

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Rob072770

· #10 · Apr 30, 2016 (Edited)

1stmarine said:
wow. Those in the pic seem worse than pulled seconds!

I never ran into bad bullets. Some discoloration here and there sometimes but I have found this in brand new hornady red tips too.
The good thing with Midway is that if you open a box is all screwed up you can send it back. No questions asked.

I agree they do a great job. With that said I have been buying over runs or seconds for another company Nosler they have been excellent. Natchess great prices. Been buying Nosler 50bt look great and shoot great for my wild cat 5.56 x42 thanks to H for doing this wildcat. They go very close to 3,500 with CFE.

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1stmarine

· #11 · Apr 30, 2016

Rob072770 said:
....They go very close to 3,500 with CFE.

That is a laser beam!

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Rob072770

· #12 · Apr 30, 2016 (Edited)

1stmarine said:
That is a laser beam!

i asked your opinion before I pulled the trigger. It is a way fun round and should lay down some yotes. I would use on deer with the right shot placement. My next load to try is an 80gr Nosler HPBT. Should go around 3.000 with eithe CFE or Lever might be closer to 2.800 still pretty fast.
Mach 3 is amazing

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geepee3

· #13 · May 3, 2016

Received my order of the "Blem Bullets 6.8 SPC .277 120 gr. Poly Tip Spitz BT" from MidwayUSA.
They come in a blue plastic box and have "MidwayUSA Repackaged Reloading Components" on the top label.
Here's how they look next to Hornady .277 120 gr. SST's.

There are a few differences. Did a random sample of 10 of each.
The lengths of the Hornady SST's runs between 1.119"- 1.121". The Blems lengths are between 1.123"- 1.126".
The cannelure is adjusted on the blems for the extra length.
Weight of the Hornady SST's was between 119.9-120 grains. The Blems ran 119.7-119.8 grains on my scale.
Diameters were identical.
So these bullets will seat deeper in the case with identical C.O.A.L. of the Hornady SST's. So adjust your loads accordingly.

Glenn

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XLR8

· #14 · May 4, 2016

1stmarine said:
wow. Those in the pic seem worse than pulled seconds!

I never ran into bad bullets. Some discoloration here and there sometimes but I have found this in brand new hornady red tips too.
The good thing with Midway is that if you open a box is all screwed up you can send it back. No questions asked.

Speaking of bad bullets anyone that has had accuracy issues with Nosler bullets you might want to Mic the OD of the bullets as they generally run grotesquely undersized compared to thier competitors bullets that are actually of the proper size.
Unless everyone is running minimum spec barrels that is you would most likely be better served using Hornady or Sierra bullets.

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