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It's been awhile now since they've been out and I've not seen them mentioned much.
I was wondering if many of you have tried them yet. If you have tried them, were they used for plinking, targets or hunting? I'm curious about the accuracy and if anyone has taken any game with them yet. :?:
 

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I haven't had much time lately but I have chronographed the combat load out of the 8" and 14.7" LWRC's. 2678 fps from the 8" and 3007 fps from the 14.7". The TSX is designed as a hunting round and I think the 85's would work well as a hunting round and a bad ass combat round. I haven't seen any ballistics tests on it yet so I don't know how far it penetrates but I imagine it will be at least 12 inches and probably alot more. At 2550fps I've tested the 110gr TSX and they expanded to an average of .60". Just imagine that bullet design at 3000 fps. After running the numbers on the JBM program, 3000 fps muzzle velocity gives it a performance envelope of 500 yards (if the hollow point opens at 1900 fps). Since it is a solid copper bullet it will be good for intermediate barriers. I think this may be the best round yet for the 6.8 for general use. I haven't tried accuracy testing yet but I don't have any reason to believe it won't be accurate enough for combat use.
 

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Thanks Randall for your input.
Wow, I thought more people would have tried them by now. I guess I'm like a lot of people and haven't tried them either but I would like to.
Although I use the 90grs. for coyote hunting and will use the 110grs. for deer hunting in a couple of weeks I'd like to try out the 85gr. on both coyotes and deer. The 85gr TSX could possibly be the better bullet of the three by being able to hunt both coyotes and deer with it.
 

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Shot a 115# doe out of a Noveske 10.5 with the new TSX 85 grain from SSA and it was thors hammer. Broke both front shoulders and the the fell straight down -DRT. Good enough for me. I generally use the Pro Hunter 110 grain but I bought two boxes of the TSX for Tand E.
 

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I have a couple of boxes at the house, I only got to shoot 10 rounds I think and I believe it was out of the upper I was having some issues with so I cant comment on accuracy, but they did shoot a lot higher then the normal loads so those things must be screaming :D
 

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I haven't had much time lately but I have chronographed the combat load out of the 8" and 14.7" LWRC's. 2678 fps from the 8" and 3007 fps from the 14.7". The TSX is designed as a hunting round and I think the 85's would work well as a hunting round and a bad ass combat round. I haven't seen any ballistics tests on it yet so I don't know how far it penetrates but I imagine it will be at least 12 inches and probably alot more. At 2550fps I've tested the 110gr TSX and they expanded to an average of .60". Just imagine that bullet design at 3000 fps. After running the numbers on the JBM program, 3000 fps muzzle velocity gives it a performance envelope of 500 yards (if the hollow point opens at 1900 fps). Since it is a solid copper bullet it will be good for intermediate barriers. I think this may be the best round yet for the 6.8 for general use. I haven't tried accuracy testing yet but I don't have any reason to believe it won't be accurate enough for combat use.
I ran the numbers in JBM and I get a bit over 1900 FPS at 400 yards for a TSX launched at 3007 FPS. Am I correct in assuming that you were using the Combat loads to get over 3000 FPS out of a 14.7" barrel?
 

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Shot a 115# doe out of a Noveske 10.5 with the new TSX 85 grain from SSA and it was thors hammer. Broke both front shoulders and the the fell straight down -DRT. Good enough for me. I generally use the Pro Hunter 110 grain but I bought two boxes of the TSX for Tand E.
Sounds like it did what is was supposed to do.
What's the details ie; distance, accuracy, velocity?

Pics? We need pics! :wink:
 

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I have already slammed two hogs with the 85 grain TSX, using my Cardinal Armory 12.5" barrel. I haven't chronographed them yet, because I spent most of that day shooting the Tubbs Final Finish series through the new barrel. After the treatment, I went pig hunting in a stand near a deer feeder that they had knocked over. :oops: :x I WAS PISSED

So, I snuck in at dusk, and about an hour after sunset, here they came. They sniffed the air at the end of the sendero, but I was scent - free....I actually took a shower in scent soap, as if bow hunting, because they are no so wary of any human scent. They didn't smell me....little bastards :evil:

So, here they came, under the feeder and just as a big sow was starting to nudge the legs of the feeder, I plugged her right through the ribs with an 85 grainer, using my D-740....all I wanted to do was put a hole in her and let her run off from the feeder. Instead, she dropped in her tracks!! She just kinda wiggled around a little.....DAMN.

Since I am always ready for the rest of them to run, I re-oriented the rifle toward another running pig, and shot it right in the side, and it, too flopped right over. I had forgotten the camera at home that night :cry:

The TSX's are performing just about like I had imagined....and they do it at just under 3000 FPS from the 12.5 inch barrel. Yeah, baby, yeah.
 

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I haven't had much time lately but I have chronographed the combat load out of the 8" and 14.7" LWRC's. 2678 fps from the 8" and 3007 fps from the 14.7". The TSX is designed as a hunting round and I think the 85's would work well as a hunting round and a bad ass combat round. I haven't seen any ballistics tests on it yet so I don't know how far it penetrates but I imagine it will be at least 12 inches and probably alot more. At 2550fps I've tested the 110gr TSX and they expanded to an average of .60". Just imagine that bullet design at 3000 fps. After running the numbers on the JBM program, 3000 fps muzzle velocity gives it a performance envelope of 500 yards (if the hollow point opens at 1900 fps). Since it is a solid copper bullet it will be good for intermediate barriers. I think this may be the best round yet for the 6.8 for general use. I haven't tried accuracy testing yet but I don't have any reason to believe it won't be accurate enough for combat use.
I ran the numbers in JBM and I get a bit over 1900 FPS at 400 yards for a TSX launched at 3007 FPS. Am I correct in assuming that you were using the Combat loads to get over 3000 FPS out of a 14.7" barrel?
They don't have an 85gr TSX listed on the JBM in the .270 caliber so I used the 85gr TSX in the .243 and guessed the BC was about .280. I used 4000 feet elevation. So the numbers might not be right on for this load. Either way, 400 yards or 500 yards, still impressive.

Ok, edit here, I ran those same numbers again on the JBM program at 3000 fps and I still got 500 yards at 1900 fps. But, again, this is using the 85gr TSX in the .243 caliber and a guess of .280 for the BC. Who knows.
 

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I have already slammed two hogs with the 85 grain TSX, using my Cardinal Armory 12.5" barrel. I haven't chronographed them yet, because I spent most of that day shooting the Tubbs Final Finish series through the new barrel. After the treatment, I went pig hunting in a stand near a deer feeder that they had knocked over. :oops: :x I WAS PISSED

So, I snuck in at dusk, and about an hour after sunset, here they came. They sniffed the air at the end of the sendero, but I was scent - free....I actually took a shower in scent soap, as if bow hunting, because they are no so wary of any human scent. They didn't smell me....little bastards :evil:

So, here they came, under the feeder and just as a big sow was starting to nudge the legs of the feeder, I plugged her right through the ribs with an 85 grainer, using my D-740....all I wanted to do was put a hole in her and let her run off from the feeder. Instead, she dropped in her tracks!! She just kinda wiggled around a little.....DAMN.

Since I am always ready for the rest of them to run, I re-oriented the rifle toward another running pig, and shot it right in the side, and it, too flopped right over. I had forgotten the camera at home that night :cry:

The TSX's are performing just about like I had imagined....and they do it at just under 3000 FPS from the 12.5 inch barrel. Yeah, baby, yeah.
Did the bullets pass through? The more I hear about this round the more I like it. Art at SSA told me this round in the combat load was still pushing 2800 fps from a 10.3" barrel so out of a 12.5" it should be around 2900 fps. With that bullet that is scary!
 

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rcrandall said:
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I have already slammed two hogs with the 85 grain TSX, using my Cardinal Armory 12.5" barrel. I haven't chronographed them yet, because I spent most of that day shooting the Tubbs Final Finish series through the new barrel. After the treatment, I went pig hunting in a stand near a deer feeder that they had knocked over. :oops: :x I WAS PISSED

So, I snuck in at dusk, and about an hour after sunset, here they came. They sniffed the air

at the end of the sendero, but I was scent - free....I actually took a shower in scent soap, as if bow hunting, because they are no so wary of any human scent. They didn't smell me....little bastards :evil:

So, here they came, under the feeder and just as a big sow was starting to nudge the legs of the feeder, I plugged her right through the ribs with an 85 grainer, using my D-740....all I wanted to do was put a hole in her and let her run off from the feeder. Instead, she dropped in her tracks!! She just kinda wiggled around a little.....DAMN.

Since I am always ready for the rest of them to run, I re-oriented the rifle toward another running pig, and shot it right in the side, and it, too flopped right over. I had forgotten the camera at home that night :cry:

The TSX's are performing just about like I had imagined....and they do it at just under 3000 FPS from the 12.5 inch barrel. Yeah, baby, yeah.
Did the bullets pass through? The more I hear about this round the more I like it. Art at SSA told me this round in the combat load was still pushing 2800 fps from a 10.3" barrel so out of a 12.5" it should be around 2900 fps. With that bullet that is scary!


Both of them went right through. I have never yet recovered a single Barnes bullet from any pig I have shot with them, neither the TSX or the TTSX. That's somewhere around 70 hogs.

And yes, I fully expect to get 2900 FPS form the 12.5" Cardinal barrel. That is pretty amazing when you think about it. As soon as I get back from Laredo, I am going back in for the next pig shoot, but, I have a party from NY coming in for trophy deer Saturday.

However, they have already said that hey want to try the "night vision hog hunting," so I might have another kill to report, and pics this time for sure.

BTW, I just got my PRI gasBuster charge handle, and Young NM chrome carrier, and I installed them into the Spike's / Cardinal SBR tonight. This lil' gun is getting better and better all the time.
 

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They don't have an 85gr TSX listed on the JBM in the .270 caliber so I used the 85gr TSX in the .243 and guessed the BC was about .280. I used 4000 feet elevation. So the numbers might not be right on for this load. Either way, 400 yards or 500 yards, still impressive.
Darn straight about the impressive part. The reason I paid attention is I hope to have a similar setup and you made my heart speed right up with those numbers! The BC according to Barnes is .323. When I run them I get 400 yards but that is because I am at sea level. Very, very impressive to me. I match your results of roughly 500 yards when I put in 4000 foot of altitude.

Were you using the combat loads to get those speeds?
 

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The TSX's are performing just about like I had imagined....and they do it at just under 3000 FPS from the 12.5 inch barrel. Yeah, baby, yeah.
Man, you guys are giving me a serious case of heart palpitations. I wonder how they work out for home defense use? I have a 12.5" coming and it would be sweet beyond belief to have that kind of range out of it. I am not a hunter, well, not yet but if I keep hanging around here that'll probably change... :lol:
 

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The TSX's are performing just about like I had imagined....and they do it at just under 3000 FPS from the 12.5 inch barrel. Yeah, baby, yeah.
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And yes, I fully expect to get 2900 FPS form the 12.5" Cardinal barrel. That is pretty amazing when you think about it. As soon as I get back from Laredo, I am going back in for the next pig shoot, but, I have a party from NY coming in for trophy deer Saturday.[/quote]
What kind of load are you using in that? I'd love to know for when mine gets here.
 

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They don't have an 85gr TSX listed on the JBM in the .270 caliber so I used the 85gr TSX in the .243 and guessed the BC was about .280. I used 4000 feet elevation. So the numbers might not be right on for this load. Either way, 400 yards or 500 yards, still impressive.
Darn straight about the impressive part. The reason I paid attention is I hope to have a similar setup and you made my heart speed right up with those numbers! The BC according to Barnes is .323. When I run them I get 400 yards but that is because I am at sea level. Very, very impressive to me. I match your results of roughly 500 yards when I put in 4000 foot of altitude.

Were you using the combat loads to get those speeds?
Yup, I was using combat loads for the numbers, I chrono'd them from my rifles.

As for home defense, probably not the best round because of the depth of penetration, but until we see ballistics gel reports who knows for sure. For 12.5" barrels and longer I still think the Hornady 110gr vmax is perfect. For everything else, the 85gr TSX.
 

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As for home defense, probably not the best round because of the depth of penetration, but until we see ballistics gel reports who knows for sure. For 12.5" barrels and longer I still think the Hornady 110gr vmax is perfect. For everything else, the 85gr TSX.
That's good to hear since I've been concentrating on the V-Max so far. Just got a couple hundred rounds of the Urban Tactical in. I'm now up to 600 rounds of ammo without a rifle. :oops: I'm months away especially after the wave of Class 3 registrations hits from the Obama Onslaught of sales.
 

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WOW! This thread has really come alive since I checked it yesterday. Thanks to all who have responded so far with their reports and stories.

HTR- great story about the TSX and the pigs! Funny as [email protected]@ too. :lol: :lol: Sounds like they're the trick for pigs and if they'll put down a pig they'll certainly do the job on a deer. I was beginning to think that nobody had tried them. You sure proved me wrong on that. :D

Looks like I'm going to have to call SSA and get some ordered for deer season. Man, I better get on the stick, our rifle season starts on the 22nd!
We're allowed 6 deer total which includes two bucks. Hopefully I'll get to take a deer or two using the TSX.
There's one little buck that I won't be shooting at though. A 4-pointer was hit and killed by a pickup right near my front yard the other night. :cry:
Crap!
 

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You had better hurry and order. I placed an order yesterday and SSA is so busy with orders Nancy said it might be two of three weeks before it ships!
 

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You had better hurry and order. I placed an order yesterday and SSA is so busy with orders Nancy said it might be two of three weeks before it ships!

Thanks for the heads up.

A day late and a dollar short. Crap! :cry: :D
 
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