[WiscTJK]

I am new to AR's, and have an extreme coming. I have been reading up on AR 15's and in the book I read it mentions "legal post-ban Ar15's." I want to use this for hunting and want to be legal. I started searching around the web and this is what I found:

" iii. Ban Criteria Features: Post-Ban AR-15 rifles, by law, cannot have more than 2 of the following features:

1) Detachable magazine

2) Pistol grip

3) Threaded barrel/flash hider

4) Collapsible stock

5) Bayonet lug

6) Grenade launcher

iv. What Features to Keep: Ninety-nine percent of Post-Ban-AR-15 rifle owners keep the detachable magazine and pistol grip features. - And for good reason. In many ways the [Crime Bill] Ban (though an infringement on our 2nd Amendment Rights), by limiting the accessories on the AR-15, has actually improved the performance of the rifle. It is more accurate with a crowned barrel vs. a threaded barrel for flash hider. It is more comfortable for most shooters with the regular stock vs. the shorter and smaller collapsible stock. It weighs much less without a bayonet and grenade launcher. As well-built and engineered as it is, the AR-15 with bayonet does not make a great platform for a spear - application of said spear would probably ruin the alignment of your front sight and barrel. And, the M203 grenade launcher is a costly and difficult-to-find civilian "flare launcher"."

So, every extreme will have 1, 2, and 3. My lower has a collapsible buttstock so I have 4 of the 6 and it sounds like it is only legal to have 2 of these. I would like to know if I will be breaking federal law with my ar 15. I looked up on Remingtons site and found an R-15 which has the collapsible buttstock, magazine and pistol grip. What gives? Any comments on this are appreciated.

If this is in the wrong area, please move it.

 

[Bigdog923]

I would also check your states hunting reg some states have law's that will effect caliber and mag capacity

 

[ArtFWTx]

Okay I see three points to make:

1. Definitely check with your state's game laws and look for magazine restrictions and caliber restrictions. Many states do not allow 5.56 for large game, but will allow 5.56 for small game and varmints. The 6.8 should be fine for large game hunting as it is legal in all the states I know of, but check yours to be sure. Game laws can be different from gun laws.

2. Your "post ban" quotes seem to be related to rifles made during the AWB ban years 1994-2004 when it sun setted or expired. During that period in most states you could only have rifles manufactured with the specs in your post. The ban expired in 2004 and manufacturers went back to producing guns as they were produced before the AWB. There's a 10 year gap where the bastardized guns were produced to comply with federal law.

3. Check for your state's gun laws on military look alike rifles. Some states like California, NY, NJ for example have their own AWB separate from the federal laws and they restrict magazines, and weapon configuration.

Game laws.
State gun laws.

The NRA's site may have some info for you as they have posted state gun laws on their site.

Then you're fine.

 

[ron169]

Or call your local Game Warden and ask them. Get the word from those who enforce is always suggestable

 

[colt100]

Since you are in WI, I'm assuming that you are talking about hunting WI also. As far as I know, there is no mag restriction while hunting nor are there any requirements as to the "evil" features that your rifle can have, for hunting or possession for that matter. 223 is also legal is WI for deer.

What "book" were you refering to?

 

[WiscTJK]

Since you are in WI, I'm assuming that you are talking about hunting WI also. As far as I know, there is no mag restriction while hunting nor are there any requirements as to the "evil" features that your rifle can have, for hunting or possession for that matter. 223 is also legal is WI for deer.

What "book" were you refering to?

AR 15 Complete Owner's Guide http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=240052

They mention the "ban." Then I searched the internet and found the info I posted. I guess it is AWB that expired in 2004.

 

[rotthaus]

Wisconsin Hunting and Trapping Regulations from WI DNR:

http://dnr.wi.gov/org/land/wildlife/regs/

 

[spd556]

"Evil" rifles are good to go in WI as long as they have at least a 16" barrel and an minimum overall length of 26". No full auto and must be larger than .22 cal.

 

[colt100]

"Evil" rifles are good to go in WI as long as they have at least a 16" barrel and an minimum overall length of 26". No full auto and must be larger than .22 cal.

From the regs:

Rifles:
• Must have an overall 26" minimum length with 16" minimum barrel length.
• Are legal for hunting deer in areas not restricted to shotguns, muzzleloaders and
handguns only as indicated by the maps on page 18.
• It is illegal to possess any rimfire rifle larger than .22 caliber or any center-fire rifle
.22 caliber or larger during any gun deer season in shotgun only areas unless it is
unloaded and enclosed within a carrying case. Note: Rifled barreled shotguns and
muzzleloaders are not considered rifles for purpose of hunting deer.
• It is illegal to hunt deer with any air rifle, rimfire rifle, or any center-fire rifle less
than .22 caliber

So it appears that as long as it's a 22 centerfire rifle, it's legal.

 

[tantrik77]

Or call your local Game Warden and ask them. Get the word from those who enforce is always suggestable

+1,000 This is what matters... Find out from the people who will be getting you in trouble...

 

[zoomie]

+1,000 This is what matters... Find out from the people who will be getting you in trouble...

With the obvious caveat that they might tell you what they "think" the law says without actually knowing it, especially on polarizing issues like this about which they might have a subconscious, if not conscious, personal bias. If we learned nothing else from Jim Zumbo, it was that some people just don't understand our hobby, not to mention firearms history.