[Guest]

Which shell holder to use for the 6.8???????????????????????? I lost my data book for my 6.8's!!! Thanks.

Also, how long before your Lee hand primer wore out? I think mine is getting there.

 

[joshuades]

DOn't know the number, but the one for .40S&W should be it.

 

[JesseJames]

I think Horndays #12 is right for 6.8.

 

[borderpatrol]

Lee hand primers use a proprietary shell holder. Standard RCBS style shell holders won't work. I'll try to look at mine when I get home, I'm sure the Lee Precision website will list it.

 

[Jamesb74]

It is the number #19. That is what is listed on the website. I had to convince mine that it was the correct one with a couple of swipes from the dremel.

 

[Guest]

Thank ya much!

 

[tulsamal]

Actually it is a #21!

And they are hard to find in stock.

http://tinyurl.com/p3289h

Gregg

 

[roger460xvr]

the #21 is for the reloaders only not for the hand primer.

 

[jrhead75]

If by hand loader we're referring to the Lee Auto-Prime, then the #21 is the correct shell holder...and they can be a bit difficult to find.

 

[tulsamal]

the #21 is for the reloaders only not for the hand primer.

If you would look at the link which I provided, you would see it was for the Lee Auto Prime. Not for a Lee reloading press or anything else. For the hand primmer. You can always tell the shellholders for the Auto Prime because they are flat on the bottom. They don't have the round part on the bottom that goes into your reloading press.

#21.

Gregg

 

[cj192837456]

Auto-prime shellholder #21

 

[rpwhite3]

If by hand loader we're referring to the Lee Auto-Prime, then the #21 is the correct shell holder...and they can be a bit difficult to find.

Your correct, its #21 and yes hard to find been on back order with lee for 2 months now. I ordered when I got my pro1000 refirbed 2 months ago. I email them about once a week, and get the same reply, we have our invoice, and when we get them you will get one ..

I can't imagine why they are so hard to make?

I think my dies should ship from Midway this next week I hope...

 

[Jamesb74]

O.K. now I remember I couldn't find a reference to the 6.8 previously (we are talking about 6 months ago) But remembered that the cartridge was close to the 40 s&w and the 30 remington which are both #19's. That is why it took a couple of swipes to convince it. The only other cartridge that I use #19 on is 9mm and it still sets the primers just fine. Sorry for the confusion but it does work if you don't want to wait on the #21

 

[tulsamal]

30 remington which are both #19's.

The 30 Remington is #21 as well. The parent case is going to be the same! If you look at the Midway link, it lists 25 and 30 Remington right there next to 6.8 SPC.

Gregg

 

[Test_User]

The point is no one has any 21s so if a 19 will work with only a bit from the dremel or file and you are in business I say go for it.
Its not like its a big $$

 

[Jamesb74]

The point is no one has any 21s so if a 19 will work with only a bit from the dremel or file and you are in business I say go for it.
Its not like its a big $$

It works well and it still reloads 9mm very well also. Took about 5 min and a few swipes to get it kind of just rounded the inside edge to let the case slip in.

I also got confused on the number because I use RCBS dies and for them it is the #19 shellholder for the dies. That is the one I looked up on line. Just confused it with the LEE sorry.

 

[maggiepi]

Well, curiosity got the best of me!

Using a Lee hand primer I primed 50 SAA cases with a lee #19 shell holder and 40 cases with a lee #21.
The only difference that I could tell was the cases might have fit just a tad looser in the #21 shell holder.
I don't know how tight Lee's tolerances are and if all # 19 lee shell holders will work with 6.8 brass.
I don't have any empty brass other than SAA to try.

MS

 

[Jamesb74]

True when I first started using the #19 before the dremeling some would slide in and some wouldn't all SSA brass. After the swipes they slide in perfectly now.

 

[tulsamal]

I don't know how tight Lee's tolerances are and if all # 19 lee shell holders will work with 6.8 brass.
I don't have any empty brass other than SAA to try.

It seems like there are two different dimensions that these shell holders have to take into account.

They have to actually fit the rim. That's width and the thickness of the rim.

But the other thing is height. If the height isn't right, then primer can't be seated fully.

For instance, I started out trying to use the #1 holder. It seemed to hold the brass by the rim just right. No wobble or popping out. So I seated a primer. Looked OK. Then for some reason I thought to try the hard flat surface test. You put the primed case down on the surface and then try to wobble it. If it is seated flush or below flush, it will be solid on the surface. If the primer is protruding even a bit, it will rock. The one I seated using the #1 holder rocked. The #1 must hold the case just a little too high.

I honestly don't know if that could be an issue with the #19 but I would examine it anyway. With the #1, I was inserting the primer with a full squeeze and it still wasn't enough. You would like to have the primer get firmly seated before you run out of seating pressure. That's kind of the point of hand priming. You want to be able to easily feel what is happening and get it "just right." Not just jam each one in there to the full limit of the tool!

I'm not saying you guys are wrong. In all probability you are right. If I can't come up with a #21, I'll probably try a #19 myself!

Gregg

 

[Test_User]

You are correct those are the two tolerances but you also have to remember the anvil that the handle pushes up to seat the primer is not at the top of its stroke when a primer is normally fully seated. It has still a good amount of room it can travel up further to handle tolerances with all the various cases and holders etc. If the primer is flush or ideally slightly below flush which is dependent on a combo of primer size pocket depth and seating to happen then there is no issue. The dif between all of these on height is only a few .001s at most I think they are fine.

Its very easy to confirm :

James or anyone using or that tried the 19 are your primers fully seated. Didi the handle bottom out or didi the primer stop it when it seated fully? Many of these parts have and can be sued for other cases etc.. There is jsut scuh small amounts sperating many things with cases. From holdesr to plates to ammo boxes etc..

Given all of this it is always much better to use the recommended one if you can. This is about making due if needed so you can load or if things cost much more it can save money.