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Latest ATF rulings that may affect ammo and reloading prices.

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Typical government trying to screw us. i am sure ammo will get more expensive in the near future because of this.
just placed an order for just in case. Bastards!!!
Typical government trying to screw us. i am sure ammo will get more expensive in the near future because of this.
Create a problem where there is none. The socialists work overtime trying to disarm everyone they disagree with.
Create a problem where there is none. The socialists work overtime trying to disarm everyone they disagree with.
With my stash of components and ammo that is going to be a little longer than they expect.
Fireworks stands are all over the place in colorado around the 4th--- those are all considered high explosives and they are "reasonably" priced. So are primers.

It will be another reason for the manufactures and vendors to raise their prices to the public and make more money though. I expect to see an increased price for the hazmat fee .
The USDOT, OSHA, EPA, and the US NRC(nuclear regulatory commission) all have definitions of a "hazardous material" and or "hazardous substance".

I guess the ATF sees the need to add that to their regulatory authority.




Sent from a final firing position, the crosshairs are on you!
Will be interesting to see. This affects the ammo manufacturers also on a grand scale.

I think it will get shot down as the DOD will have an issue as well. They follow this and the troops run out of ammo. But we will see. If you weren't buying powder already its probably to late.
I've always said there are to many guns out
there to regulate. All they have to do is stop
the ammo and their problem with guns is solved.
just placed an order for just in case. Bastards!!!
I ordered 3K last night as well and should be good for quite a while with what I already had. :a21:
I've always said there are to many guns out
there to regulate. All they have to do is stop
the ammo and their problem with guns is solved.
Maybe for those that rely on centerfire factory ammo! HA! Only issue in my camp is the rim fire ammo! DOH!!!:a43:
Maybe for those that rely on centerfire factory ammo! HA! Only issue in my camp is the rim fire ammo! DOH!!!:a43:
you can reload those too, If you have a ton of time on your hands
As THM referenced fireworks stands pop up around July 4th with no problems. Keep in mind that black powder has always been regulated as an explosive but the bad part is trying to find it if you shoot a smoke pole.

Whether or not the manufacturers increase prices or not the distributors will do as they have with .22 LR, I have seen the same box of .22 LR priced from $18-$20 all the way up to $49 depending on where you are purchasing it.
Just placed another order with PV because of this, I just don't know how much more my wallet can stand. It just amazes me how corrupt our system has become.
Sometimes I wonder what's really going on. Just when powder supplies were becoming stable, and sales were actually happening, we get this, and everyone goes crazy again. I wonder whose really yanking our chain? Just like 22 rimfire Ammo. It's back in stock for the most part, but at $10/100. We're our own worst enemy sometimes.
Sometimes I wonder what's really going on. Just when powder supplies were becoming stable, and sales were actually happening, we get this, and everyone goes crazy again. I wonder whose really yanking our chain? Just like 22 rimfire Ammo. It's back in stock for the most part, but at $10/100. We're our own worst enemy sometimes.
I agree with this. Panic buying is the norm now. If you want conspiracy it wouldn't be a surprise if some manus are behind it. Just to keep things going.

Reading more into this. The DOD is screwed so that would probably kill it no matter what. They wont absorb the cost.

Also it looks like a basic shift. If what it is showing so far it changes the classification from 4.1 to 1.3? So that would mean different logistics but nothing really crazy. Just wouldn't be allowed to ship with other specific types. So might have some logistics to overcome but nothing really crazy.

Any hazmat transport experts willing to chime in?
Military will exempt themselves. Just like they do for most environmental laws. And audits.
The ATF has backed off and said they need to re-evaluate and work with the industry regarding this. In the meantime the old rules will continue as they were.
The ATF has backed off and said they need to re-evaluate and work with the industry regarding this. In the meantime the old rules will continue as they were.
I figured that would take awhile. The green tip ammo deal got stupid; still can't believe what people were paying for that stuff.
I agree with this. Panic buying is the norm now. If you want conspiracy it wouldn't be a surprise if some manus are behind it. Just to keep things going.

Reading more into this. The DOD is screwed so that would probably kill it no matter what. They wont absorb the cost.

Also it looks like a basic shift. If what it is showing so far it changes the classification from 4.1 to 1.3? So that would mean different logistics but nothing really crazy. Just wouldn't be allowed to ship with other specific types. So might have some logistics to overcome but nothing really crazy.

Any hazmat transport experts willing to chime in?
You setting up a group buy for us James???:a21::a21:
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