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I’ve always wanted a 6.8 SPC and recently decided to take the plunge with a Daniel Defense complete rifle in 16”

been shooting 5.56 and 7.62X39, of which the latter I consider ‘just for fun’ but I’m very interested in 6.8 as a step up in performance from 5.56

I reload, which seems mandatory for the caliber at this point, looking forward to learning the caliber. It seems unfortunate that one “flavor of the Year” cartridge after another seems to keep popping up on the scene and muddying the waters. From what I’ve learned, the 6.8 is excellent.
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Welcome to the fray.
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I’ve always wanted a 6.8 SPC and recently decided to take the plunge with a Daniel Defense complete rifle in 16”

been shooting 5.56 and 7.62X39, of which the latter I consider ‘just for fun’ but I’m very interested in 6.8 as a step up in performance from 5.56

I reload, which seems mandatory for the caliber at this point, looking forward to learning the caliber. It seems unfortunate that one “flavor of the Year” cartridge after another seems to keep popping up on the scene and muddying the waters. From what I’ve learned, the 6.8 is excellent.
Welcome Welcome! I really wish DD still made 6.8s. Nice find though!
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If you hunt anything bigger than coyotes it will definitely be a step up on the other two chamberings. Being a reloader you'll be sitting pretty good for most North American game.
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Welcome from SE GA! Plenty of reloading data and knowledge here!
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Welcome Welcome! I really wish DD still made 6.8s. Nice find though!
Currently, they offer a 18” Hunter model in Kryptwk bright camo. They seem committed to the caliber, I’ve got two of their 5.56 rifles so I hope that they never drop it.

recently, a bunch of 16 inch tornado gray hand guard rifles with chrome line barrels, and SSA triggers have popped up on GunBroker so that’s what peaked my interest and made me think it was time to make a move. These aren’t on the website so they probably are discontinued.
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Welcome to the 68.

I thought they were out of the 68. Happy to see they aren't. The Hunter looks like a good offering. They also have a barrel listed, 16" 1:11 5R Hammer forged CMV chrome SPCll on the site too. It's a little heavy at 2.31 lbs.
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Welcome. It is a great caliber for deer and hogs.
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Welcome to the 68.

I thought they were out of the 68. Happy to see they aren't. The Hunter looks like a good offering. They also have a barrel listed, 16" 1:11 5R Hammer forged CMV chrome SPCll on the site too. It's a little heavy at 2.31 lbs.
i hope Daniel Defense keeps at least one along with several other brands. Think about where 10mm would be if Glock hadn’t offered the very ‘niche’ G20 for those decades. The 6.8 seems to fit the bill of 0-300 meter defense carbine option with enhanced performance relative to 5.56 so I think they were right to feature it. It looks like DD is focusing mainly on the hunting capabilities which are also exemplary.
Welcome!

Be careful, the 6.8 bug may hit you hard like it has me. So many really great options out there in both rifle setups and parts (when you search) as well as bullet offerings for reloaders. Not so much in the way of plentiful and good ammo sources right now, but I'm hoping that changes as time passes. I believe it very well may become "the" alternative caliber for hunters and recreational shooters if we can keep it alive long enough and generate enough demand for components.

I poke my buddies pretty hard with their Grendels sporting 20-24" barrels and I'm running 12.5-16 inch guns and still kill anything I decide to shoot at.

I have personally decided to move from the 5.56 to one of my 6.8's as my truck gun with the thought that if 100+ rounds of good 6.8 doesn't get me out of a situation, I shouldn't have been there in the first place, PLUS I can hunt anything here in central and western NC with it should the opportunity arise.
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I actually have an upper with the 16" DD S2W barrel, 1:11, it's 5R and SPC II chamber. It's just as accurate as my ARP 16" Scout, but yes, it's a little too heavy for what I want to do with the gun (movement). I also use their 16" LW barrel in 5.56, mid-length in my 5.56 upper.

I've contemplated having the S2W barrel machined down but was worried it might induce some additional stresses and ruin the accuracy, so I ended up switching over to the ARP Scout and am just keeping it as a backup / for a dedicated project upper (maybe as mid-weight 6.8 option with just a high mount red dot only intended for CQC / NODS use).

While the weight wasn't bad at all with the lightweight handguard paired with it, it also wasn't making any difference in accuracy either as the lighter scout barrel was just as accurate. And at 9oz lighter, I could throw a bipod on the end of the Scout upper and be within a 1/4 lb of the DD with no bipod, so in my mind as a Recce type configuration, that was more desirable than having a "machine gun" profile barrel that was over built for the application.

But DD's barrels are extremely tough; they are some of the most durable on the market. NWSC Crane tested the Geissele URGI's that originally had Daniels Defense barrels in them and found that they were already at double the service life over the Colt SOCOM barrels in the M4A1's that served as a baseline, and they were still holding accuracy even shooting the rather hot M855A1 that's a barrel burner under their testing requirements (and it's apples to apples, shooting the same lot of ammo under the same conditions for both).

While the SOCOM barrel had a carbine length gas port and the URG-I / DD uppers had mid-length, the gas port is not going to affect throat erosion, both barrels are chrome lined as well and the SOCOM is a heavier profile yet didn't last half as long.

That's why I believe DD employ's something similar Boeings chrome lining processes, which doubled to tripled the service life of large caliber gatling guns in aircraft (20mm), the 25mm Bushmaster cannon on the Bradley and other 20-30mm type vehicle weapons over mil-spec chrome and nitride.

Hammer forging isn't going to change wear of the chrome lining, it only maintains rigidity under heat better, while cold hammer forged lands last about 2x longer than non-hammer forged lands on un-lined barrels, it's the lining that needs to last as once the limning fails, you're going to run into accuracy issues regardless. I posted one of Boeing's papers on it somewhere on this forum (I think it was my post about ARP barrel manufacturing and stress relieving).
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