I appreciate all the responses so far and almost bought the viper just because of the price and will get one of the vx freedoms for another rifle I have. Just bought a 10.5" 7.62x39 upper that I'm planning on hunting with under 100yds and lastly for hd so my parameters have changed on the scope I need now. Would like a 1-6 or 1-8 under $400 preferably under $300. I want the variable power because I like magnification when working up loads and shooting targets. I do that more than hunting. Only hunt when the freezer is empty. I currently am looking real hard at the Burris rt-6 with pepr mount for $350. Also not a fan of either strike eagle. If there is something else I should be looking at please let me know.