IMO, these are short range scopes. I wouldn't consider a scope long range unless it goes up to 16x. I also wouldn't get a long range scope to use for hunting that didn't have a 50mm objective lens so it collects enough light to use during dawn and dusk. I have a Bushnell 2.5-16x by 50 with a mil-dot reticle that does well and doesn't break the bank. When adjusted to just under 12x power (11.8x) and a 100 yard zero on my .270 Win with 129 LRX, the first mil-dot is 300 yards, 2nd is 400 yards, 3rd is 500, and fourth is 600 yards. No knobs to twist, just hold-over and shoot. I use a 3-9x Accupoint with green triangle for my 6.8mm zero'd at 200 yards. Middle of the triangle is 250 and bottom is 300.The problem I'm running into is which long range scope to buy, with the best glass possible, without breaking the bank. .... I've looked into a Leupold VX6 1-6 and Vortex Razor Gen 2 1-6.