[Whisky]

I've personally never shot a firearm after any heavy metabolic work. Check out this video from CrossFit.com. I should train like this every day. Unfortunately I don't think they approve of gun fire in the middle of Fort Worth.

http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/CrossFit_HelenGetYourGun.wmv

 

[ron169]

That is somthing taht I completely agree with. At our Police acadamy, during the 2nd week, we had to run a strenuous obstacle course and at the end, slap three metal fall down targets. In the 10th and final week, after 10 weeks of PT everyday, we ran the same course in full gear, and had to hit the 3 targets with our sidearm, while moving and giving commands, talk about a more life like shooting situation

 

[dlance13]

That is somthing taht I completely agree with. At our Police acadamy, during the 2nd week, we had to run a strenuous obstacle course and at the end, slap three metal fall down targets. In the 10th and final week, after 10 weeks of PT everyday, we ran the same course in full gear, and had to hit the 3 targets with our sidearm, while moving and giving commands, talk about a more life like shooting situation

Ahh memories! My academy stress course was brutally fun. Let's see if I can remember:

**Using a revolver, start with 25 rounds of ammo for 19 targets; this course ran laterally from left to right**
1) Sprint two laps around the firing line (think there were 25 stations)
2) 25 push ups, 25 sit ups
3) Stand up, draw, 2 targets, 2 shots at each @ 25 yards
4) Sprint to the 10 yard line dropping down behind a barrier. 3 shots strong hand, 3 shots off hand @ 2 hostage targets
5) 25 more push ups
6) Up and sprint to the 7 yard line, triple tap silhouette
7) Sprint back to the 25 yard line; 6 pepper popper targets

While running the course we had the academy Lt, academy Sgt, department armory Sgt and an academy deputy all with megaphones screaming right behind your head and/or blaring the siren function. It was quite fun. A few of us were pretty tight with the academy Sgt so we got the extra special treatment of him booming his .45 just behind and to the side of us while we were shooting. Nothing better than your heart racing, blood pumping, sirens and trainers screaming and the concussion of a .45 off the side of your head to wake you up in the morning!

 

[Jamesb74]

Crossfit is a damn interesting workout plan/idea.
I like it alot I have been doing itfor a couple of weeks now and it is definitly demanding (been staying at the puppydog scale). It will definitly get you in shape and I like the idea of something different everyday.

Did one workout last week that I felt for three days. To the point I couldn't workout those three days but it is still damn nice.

 

[ron169]

Our obstacle course, from what I remember. Drive a crown vic down a muddy dirst road, stop at a predetermined point, exit the vehicle while locking the door. Run down a muddy hill. Cross a creek with two stones in the middle as jumping points. Climb over a 6 foot wooden wall. Climb over a 11 foot wall. Run up a muddy hill. Go through 4 windows and one door at the top of the hill. Run down the muddy hill. Cross a creek at its widest point with a 2X4 as a bridge. Run up the steep muddy embankment, low crawl through the mud for 30 yards, exit, give verbal commands while firing at metal silluettes, Reloading halfway through.

 

[Jamesb74]

Our obstacle course, from what I remember. Drive a crown vic down a muddy dirst road, stop at a predetermined point, exit the vehicle while locking the door. Run down a muddy hill. Cross a creek with two stones in the middle as jumping points. Climb over a 6 foot wooden wall. Climb over a 11 foot wall. Run up a muddy hill. Go through 4 windows and one door at the top of the hill. Run down the muddy hill. Cross a creek at its widest point with a 2X4 as a bridge. Run up the steep muddy embankment, low crawl through the mud for 30 yards, exit, give verbal commands while firing at metal silluettes, Reloading halfway through.

Is that the training for clearing the way to the donut shop?

Sorry man Paulo is not here.

 

[ron169]

Is that the training for clearing the way to the donut shop?

Sorry man Paulo is not here.

Nah, thos of us that knew where the doughnut shop was couldnt jump the 11 foot wall anyway!

 

[dlance13]

Is that the training for clearing the way to the donut shop?

Sorry man Paulo is not here.

LOL! We made a donut joke in the academy exactly ONCE. Standing around before class one morning (someone had brought donuts) someone joked "haha now we are REALLY training to be cops!" just as the LT was walking by.

About 5 seconds later here comes Sarge, "Everyone in your PT gear and in formation in 2 minutes!" There was a collective "Oh shit" from the class.

Sarge proceeded to PT our butts for what seemed like forever. Then we reformed and he began passing out donuts to everyone. Had to stuff the whole thing in our mouth and start doing calisthenics. One after the other until alllllllll the donuts were gone. There were some puky cadets that morning!

 

[BLACK LION]

Nah, thos of us that knew where the doughnut shop was couldnt jump the 11 foot wall anyway!

hhahahahahahaahahah....

I remember taking the physical for entry into SDPD (with body armor) and chuckling inside at all the people who couldnt get over the damn wall... people were literally throwing themselves into it. It kinda reminded me of that show from japan with all the f'ed up obstacles. too funny

 

[tantrik77]

MXC, black lion...? That show is hilarious... I heard somewhere that a sake company was their sponsor and that that the only people who could participate were the ones willing to get hammered... From the look of it... Very true...

 

[Mark21]

I'd love to hear from the LEOs that make entries and/or face barricade situations and other similar situations how things progressed given stress levels.

I've done the "sprint 100 yards and put 5 shots into center mass" drills, but I gotta tell you, the one night when my home alarm went off at 3am while I was in a deep sleep--I got up, put on my glasses, grabbed my gun, had my wife get on the phone with 911 and went out into the hallway with my Surefire G2 (with high-intensity lamp) and G17 loaded with Federal HST 147s?... man, it was NOTHING like the stress training. My ears only heard my heart pumping. That's it. My heart was prob 180+ beats per minute. I was literally shaking, and I'm a guy not a guy who is easily intimidated! The flashlight flooded my eyesight and killed my nightsight... I have both trijicon lights on my Glock as well as a Crimson sight, and I have to admit I relied almost solely on the laser -- I was just too hyped up to use my sights. And that's after training for 10 years!

I'm not a LEO, and I'm under no delusions -- I was not about to clear my home, but simply got into a position that would cause the bad guy to have to come through a narrow door if he was to come at my family. The "funnel of death", if you will. Turned out it had been a little wren bird that got down my chimney and triggered the motion alarm. It ended up flying at me and I swear I would have shot a hole in a wall if it wasn't for training to keep the trigger finger off the trigger! But I'm still shocked at myself about all the stuff I forgot to do correctly...

Makes me wonder just how the stress of real life affects LEOs, exp the guys that do entries. My one buddy that was on the barricade team in Chicago once said he just ran on instinct, and all he could hope was that if he trained enough it would become instinct... Similar to when I played HS football -- I would do drills over and over, but in the end, in the game -- I would go on instinct. Only in time did instinct end up being the same as the drills.

My hats off to the officers that do this for a living! Any tips for us civilians?

 

[joshuades]

SIme reason I don't get worked up so bad until something happens. I've had to sweep the house a couple of times after coming home and the front door was open (turns out the door wouldn't stay latched, no foul play). SO far I've been calm until after the fact. I've always found that weird.

 

[BLACK LION]

MXC, black lion...? That show is hilarious... I heard somewhere that a sake company was their sponsor and that that the only people who could participate were the ones willing to get hammered... From the look of it... Very true...

Yeah thast one. No wonder the show was fubar...everyone was high on sake...hahaahahahahahah

We now have a US version called WIPEOUT

 

[tantrik77]

Hahahaha a bunch of hammered Japanese... What a show... And WIPEOUT is just absurd... They literally get the most out of shape and uncoordinated people in America... I would dominate...

 

[diving dave]

[. That's it. My heart was prob 180+ beats per minute. I was literally shaking, and I'm a guy not a guy who is easily intimidated! The flashlight flooded my eyesight and killed my nightsight... I have both trijicon lights on my Glock as well as a Crimson sight, and I have to admit I relied almost solely on the laser -- I was just too hyped up to use my sights. And that's after training for 10 years!


Well, I'll add a few comments here. I've been a police officer for about 20 yrs now. In 2001, I had a ex con decide to ventilate my patrol car with a handgun before I could even get out of it. When the adrenaline kicks in, your body goes through rapid chemical changes, which affect your vision, ablility to manipulate things, etc. In my case, the crook pumped about 6 rds. at my windshield, then took off running. He confronted my partner who was coming in the other way, and cranked several rounds at him. Like an idiot, I take off running after him, leaving a loaded 12ga. with OO buck right between the seats..He turned, coming back towards me and I engage the guy, distance about 15-18 ft. I fired 3 rounds from my Glock 21, and I was so focused on him, I never even saw my sights. 2 rounds smacked into a parked car behind him, and one hit home. Point to my rambling is a real shooting is not like shooting at the range. What can be done to address these issues?If you get a chance to train force on force, something like simunitions, can be a big help. Most civilians wont get the chance to do that, so the next best bet is a good class. Most of us love cool guns and the latest gizmos, I'm no exception. But nothing is more important than mindset. When it happens, its fast and violent.