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I hope the reporter on NPR this morning who said that Mexican cartels are buying "M16s" in the USA watches it. And perhaps he will learn the difference between an M16 an an AR-15. Or maybe he already knew the difference and didn't care about deception.
 

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This article was mentioned in the report. It said that Holder was asked about the Fox News article that disputed the 90% figure, and Holder said that if the percentage is lower, it doesn't matter what the number is, it's still a problem.

When you have the entire federal govt. repeating a lie, it becomes the truth. And they know it. And they think they can get away with it.
 

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Mike W said:
This article was mentioned in the report. It said that Holder was asked about the Fox News article that disputed the 90% figure, and Holder said that if the percentage is lower, it doesn't matter what the number is, it's still a problem.

When you have the entire federal govt. repeating a lie, it becomes the truth. And they know it. And they think they can get away with it.
Key word is that they think they can get away with it. We are going to prove them wrong aren't we guys?
 

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angsniper said:
Mike W said:
This article was mentioned in the report. It said that Holder was asked about the Fox News article that disputed the 90% figure, and Holder said that if the percentage is lower, it doesn't matter what the number is, it's still a problem.

When you have the entire federal govt. repeating a lie, it becomes the truth. And they know it. And they think they can get away with it.
Key word is that they think they can get away with it. We are going to prove them wrong aren't we guys?
YEP!
 

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Watched the show - feh- first segment was on the North Hollywood BofA shootout. Last segment was nothing but a paid commercial for H&K (XM8 and 416). Some of the info presented was not so factual - for instance, a statement was made that one of the bank robbers had an M16 with "double drum mag" which afforded 200 rounds at his disposal. Last I checked, a Beta C-Mag only holds 100rds. Maybe he had two such devices?

Also, while discussing previous issue rifles, mention was made that the M1 Garand weighs in @ 13lbs! I must have the lightweight versions, as neither weighs close to that!

Also disappointing that the only M16/AR15 calibers discussed besides the .223/5.56 were 9mm, .22LR and .50 Beowulf. No mention made of the Armalite predecessors to the AR15 (AR10, et al) or present day variants.

Oh well, such is Hollywood...
 

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The History Channel falls short sometimes and sometimes has an agenda. I DVR'd the show, and now maybe I won't watch it if it's not that good. The fact is the members here probably could have done a better job with the history of the M-16.
 

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I felt the same way.

Most people probably wouldn't notice the difference, but I think they glossed over a lot of things or just got it plain wrong.

One of the things was they mentioned the reduced recoil "due to the DI system" vs conventional piston designs.
Horse$hit. It's the small cartridge that gives low recoil.
DI is still a piston, it's just integrated into the carrier and bolt.

They didn't talk at all about the inconsistent performance of the 556, especially out of short barrels.
Or barrier penetration performance.
They did show an M16 chewing through cinder block walls on full auto.
Not all that impressive IMHO. I wonder how much of the round actually got through. Probably just fragments.

They didn't talk about the reliability of the M4 in the sandbox.

They didn't talk about the single most important new development, the 6.8SPC.

As for replacements, they didn't talk about the SCAR, just the HK416 and XM8.
The XM8 uses an improved lever style magazine release and non-STANAG mags BTW.

The beautiful thing about DVR is you can watch stuff in slow motion.
They did have a lot of slow motion, full auto shots. Watch that in DVR slow motion and you have double slow mo.
One version of the 416 was ejecting brass @ 4:30. The other carbine version was ejecting @ 1:30.
Interesting.

They did mention the 416 has drain holes in the buffer tube and carrier to pass water drain tests.
This may be relatively easy to do on your own.

But the editors did slip in something priceless...
In the last 30 seconds, they show a well endowed girl ( they gotta be Ds :wink: ), hip firing an M16 on full auto.
After checking them out, I noticed the T shirt. It's got his picture and O B A M A in big letters above it.
I just about fell off the couch.
 
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