[hdglock]

I am on the preorder list for the Xtreme, which will be my first 6.8. I have been thinking this rifle will be a good shooter with all the attention to detail and the 5R barrel and was wanting a high quality optic to realize its potential. The scope will be used for hunting and target practice and may possible removed once in a while to mount a Eotech for close in hunting so it will more than likely be mounted in a Larue quick detach mount. When hunting the longest shot will be @200 yards. The same goes for the range I go to, 200 max (it may be extended to 300 in the future). The power range I am thinking would fit my needs is roughly 4-16. After doing alot of looking I have pretty much settled on one scope, a Zeiss Conquest 4.5-14x50 with Mildot reticle and target turrets.
www.zeiss.com/c1256bcf0020be5f/Contents ... d700377d7e

These scopes cost a pretty penny and I am not made of money so it will be awhile before I can get it, but I would like some input from someone who owns a zeiss scope if they have had any problems and what there impressions of it are. Any input would be appreciated.

 

[paulosantos]

Since you are only shooting out to 200 Yards, the new 1x4 Accupoint that is coming out would be a great choice and won't cost you an arm and a leg.

 

[hdglock]

Paulo, thanks for the recommendation. It looks like a good scope but, I am wanting a little more magnification for paper punching and the accupoint is only a little over $100 cheaper than the best price I have found for the Zeiss.

Since money is tight right now the other option I am considering is a Zeiss conquest 3-9x40 which is $100 cheaper than the accupoint. I have two 3-9 now (simmons) but, they are not clear eenough for what I am wanting and the Zeiss may make up for it. I don't need the mildot or the target turrets but would like to have them

 

[paulosantos]

The Zeiss scopes are great. If you have the cash for it, go for it.

 

[ChopperGuy]

I have two Zeiss 4.5-14x44 Mil dot with the side focus/AO and target knobs on varmint rifles in .223 and .204 Ruger.

They work very well and I've been using them for a few years in the dusty plains of Montana shooting prairie dogs.

Before the other scope found its way to my bolt action .223 Blaser LRS, it was on my Blaser R93 6.5x55 semi weight used for some LONG range shooting. Did a great job to well over 600 yards which is about the extent of my ability so far. But I'm going to improve on that!

The .204 mounted Zeiss was on my AR heavy barrel rifle. Never any issues at all and held zero perfectly.

They are good glass and should suit your needs very well.

I also have the Accupoint on my CZ 527 6.8 rifle. I ahve used it hunting and at the bench to 200 yards. Great glass for the money and a very fast aiming system with low light capabilities that don't rely on batteries.

Good luck.

 

[Mark21]

Zeiss prob has the top glass in the industry nowadays. Not sure if the turrets are in mils though -- might not matter if you won't be using the mil-dot sight for anything other than putting crosshairs on target

At 200 yards, that is a lot of scope, as per paulo's comment. Many shoot to 1,000 with a 3-15x... Then again, BR shooter use insane magnification, so what do I know?

Given that you are on a tighter budget, I suppose that would put the Premier and Nightforce scopes out of your range? I have dealt with the people from Premier and their product is absolute top-notch, but costs more than most rifles.

 

[hdglock]

Thanks for the replies. I admit the 4.5-14 is a little much for 200 yds but I am hoping to find a place to shoot further in the future. I guess it really boils down to the fact that I would like a good quality scope that will not hinder me in the future. I found the 4.5-14 listed above for $679 which is a little more than $200 of list price.

After doing some research on reviews of Zeiss everyone seems well pleased with them. They offer a limited lifetime warranty as well. I have decided to go with Zeiss for the scope, just have to decide on the magnification range. The 3-9 is 405.00

 

[ccoker]

how about the Trijicon 3-9?

 

[hdglock]

how about the Trijicon 3-9?

It would make a good choice as well. The best price I can find for it so far is 100 dollars cheaper than the Zeiss 4.5-14 and 170 dollars more than a Zeiss 3-9. If I can get the higher magnification version it will pull double duty on my other ARs at some point especially for hand load development since I will be reloading shortly.

 

[Strike 3]

I have a Zeiss 4.5-14-44 .Awesome scope.You can read lips at 300 yds. 200 yds it is freaky accurate.The glass is the best I have used at low light .I lost a buck of a life time and moved up to this,just for the sake of first and last light when the big boys are on the move .I have never sat in wait with more than 11 power.I took a deer at 20 yards this past Nov. power was at the bottom end and was great at last light.I think what you describe ,the 3-9 should be right.The 50 size bell on the scope you mention is huge.That may cause a mounting issue .As for the Eotech it is great too.I have one on my RRA.It too has its home.For close up hunting to get a quick shot off at under 100 yds it is a good choice also.I am mounting the Eotech on my slug gun for short -fast shooting.You wont go wrong with the Zeiss.I gave you alot to chew on,but it is done with what I have and use and is just my own opinion.This is a great site with great people for help.Good luck

 

[hdglock]

I have a Zeiss 4.5-14-44 .Awesome scope.You can read lips at 300 yds. 200 yds it is freaky accurate.The glass is the best I have used at low light .I lost a buck of a life time and moved up to this,just for the sake of first and last light when the big boys are on the move .I have never sat in wait with more than 11 power.I took a deer at 20 yards this past Nov. power was at the bottom end and was great at last light.I think what you describe ,the 3-9 should be right.The 50 size bell on the scope you mention is huge.That may cause a mounting issue .As for the Eotech it is great too.I have one on my RRA.It too has its home.For close up hunting to get a quick shot off at under 100 yds it is a good choice also.I am mounting the Eotech on my slug gun for short -fast shooting.You wont go wrong with the Zeiss.I gave you alot to chew on,but it is done with what I have and use and is just my own opinion.This is a great site with great people for help.Good luck

I have been wondering that as well. I have emailed Larue to see if they think it would fit ok, but no answer yet. Anyone have a picture of one they could post?

 

[J.Boyette]

The 50mm will clear, no issues there.

I would hold out if you can.

I would hold until after Shot Show due to the new 2009 stuff coming on the market. Once it does, the 2007 and 2008 products that did not move will be at a better price point.

John

 

[hdglock]

The 50mm will clear, no issues there.

I would hold out if you can.

I would hold until after Shot Show due to the new 2009 stuff coming on the market. Once it does, the 2007 and 2008 products that did not move will be at a better price point.

John

I have been holding off for awhile and just wanted to look at it one more time. Pulled up the website and the price went up 100 dollars :x . Hopefully it will come down again. If not I will get a 3-9 and a progressive reloading press.

 

[tkosiba]

I'm happy with my "compact" Nightforce 2.5 x 10, illuminated donut recticle. Very versatile for low power 3-gun and plenty for long range. Remember, for years the military trained their long range (beyond 200 yards I would assume) snipers with maximum, fixed 10 power scopes. 2008 retail price: $1200.

 

[FALbert]

14x is not overkill as long as you have a variable power scope where you can dial it down if needed. When shooting distance, my vote is to give your eyes a break. So why not get more magnification as it does come in handy?

 

[MikeeBooshay]

I have a couple Ziess scopes - both 6.5 x20, one with mil dots one without. The quality is superb, the price is high, but not as high as nightforce. As far as quality, you will be very happy. I have shot at 600+ yards well after sundown, you went blind for a second right after muzzle blast, but then rightback.

Having said that, I am not planning on one for the 6.8 I am building. I think I will be better with Horus vision scope, I prefer the grid, and the quality is good also. Not quite as good as the Ziess or nightforce, but good still, Leopold good. One thing to remember, the mil dots are only good at one mag level usually 10, on most scopes which are 2nd focal plane, ie, the crosshairs stay the same size regardless of magnification. First focal planes, the reticle changes size with magnification. Inother words a mil is only a mil at one power setting. If you have a scope with mil dots, and use anything other than that one power setting, expect negative results. Hence the 2nd scope with no dots, MAKES me use the turrets.

I have a Horus on a .243, love it. I think one on a QD mount, will be great for piggies. I may not even take it off, just use the laser at night with the night vision goggles. check it out www.horusvision.com. I think you can get it on some nightforce scopes, but not all.

 

[d90king]

For the money and only 200 yds it is hard to beat one of these. It also gives you far greater flexibility for CQB and training where 1x is appropriate also.
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