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Elk Harvested with Cavity Back Bullet

20258 Views 33 Replies 14 Participants Last post by  Yamaraja
Thought I would start a thread about hunting with the Cavity Back Bullets since most of the information so far is in the reloading section. I want to say up front, thanks Yamaraja for providing the 6.8 community with an excellent hunting bullet.

I was fortunate to harvest a 500-lbs cow elk this past weekend in Western New Mexico. It was a broadside double-lung shot at 196 yards with a 105 MKZ Cavity Back Bullet (CBB). The elk went 20 feet and dropped. The bullet was a complete pass through. There was a large pooling of blood around both the exit wound and mouth. I could follow the blood trail back to the point of impact. The picture below of the elk with the 6.8 was taken back at camp not where the elk went down so it doesn't show the blood loss. This harvest was with the 105 MKZ prototype which had a 1900 fps min expansion velocity. The production version's minimum expansion velocity was improved to 1600 fps.

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nonnieselman has recoverd a 105 MKZ from a hog so I've included his pictures to show how the bullet expands.

Thru a shoulder and 7 ribs. 18-19" penetration

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MKZ Wound Channel

After fielding dressing, you could see the bullet was fully expanded before entering the chest cavity by the 2.5-inch entry wound between two ribs. The exit wound was the same size and broke a rib going out. The lungs clearly showed the wound channel with the off-side wound looking like a 3-pointed star - maybe a result of the 3 pedals of the expanded MKZ. There were no indications that the bullet lost any of its pedals thus retained 100% of its weight during the terminal phase.



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My hunting partner had stopped his cow elk with a shot from a 300 WM 165 GMX that hit the spine while the cow was on the move. But he had left his box of ammo at the cabin so only had the one round in his pocket to start with. Thus we used the 6.8 to put the elk down with a shot to the neck (118 yards). We ended up throwing his neck meat away because the 105 MKZ's expansion and resultant wound channel with bone fragments didn't make it worth the effort to butcher.

I was pleased and impressed with the 105 MKZ's performance. I've shot cow elk with my .270 Win using 130 GMX and 129 LRX bullets at 275, 325, 350 and 400 yards. Yes, this was a closer 200-yard shot and only a sample of one, however, the entry and exit wounds from the 105 MKZ matched or bettered my prior harvests with a more powerful cartridge plus this elk was down as quick or quicker with more blood loss.

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Very nice.
That's only one of the very few bullets I've ever recovered.
I'm waiting for Yam to get some more instock. I'm down to one magazine of CBB's

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Thanks for posting X, Robert has definitely developed a quality bullet(s)


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Nice kill, shot, and performance, no doubt!

What load did you settle on for the 105?
What load did you settle on for the 105?
I loaded these long at 2.355" COAL and was getting 0.75 moa so stopped there and went hunting. Because this load is longer than max length, my load data with AA2200 would be over max if anyone loaded it at mag length so I'm reluctant to post it. If you load long, pm me and we can discuss.
I loaded the 105s at 2.285" with AA2200 and only loaded up till I seen pressure and went down 1 grain.
Didn't check for accuracy a cause I was in a hurry but did bust a coyote over 300 yards with that load.

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Repost of the entrance wound 105 gr. CBB on whitetail buck. If you look closely you can see where all 3 petals expanded.

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I loaded these long at 2.355" COAL and was getting 0.75 moa so stopped there and went hunting. Because this load is longer than max length, my load data with AA2200 would be over max if anyone loaded it at mag length so I'm reluctant to post it. If you load long, pm me and we can discuss.
Understood. I would only load to 2.295
Excellent results Xman!!!
All the reports are beyond what we could have hoped for.

Perhaps we can get some folks to post their load data @ 2.295 OAL.
Where might one purchase a few of these 105CCB's ?
Where might one purchase a few of these 105CCB's ?
-www.cavitybackbullets.com
Where might one purchase a few of these 105CCB's ?
Back in stock 11/30/16
I'm debating 105 again or go for the 120s

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What load did you settle on for the 105?
rvrrat14, here is my load data for mag-length COALs with the 105 MKZ. I shoot single powder charge vs velocity ladders when I first get a new bullet to find the performance boundaries and look for indications of the accuracy node. In this load ladder, I used 0.5 grain increments. Note I load longer than mag length frequently to look for better accuracy. I found the node for my rifle 18" ARP. I have continued to maintain 0.5 MOA groupings with the 105 MKZ in my 18" ARP. The freebore in my 20" ARP that I used on this hunt is 0.035 longer.

Note, Hornady and Federal brass has less capacity so you will need to reduce your starting load at least another 0.5 grains to compensate.

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I'm debating 105 again or go for the 120s
I don't think you can go wrong with either. I would have taking the 120 MKZ with me on this hunting trip but I didn't have time to develop a load for it. The 105 did an excellent job and I like its flatter trajectory because I hunt with a Trijicon AccuPoint that has a green triangle. When I sight the AccuPoint in at 200 yards with the 105, 250 yards is the center of the triangle and 300 is the bottom.
rvrrat14, here is my load data for mag-length COALs with the 105 MKZ. I shoot single powder charge vs velocity ladders when I first get a new bullet to find the performance boundaries and look for indications of the accuracy node. In this load ladder, I used 0.5 grain increments. Note I load longer than mag length frequently to look for better accuracy. I found the node for my rifle 18" ARP. I have continued to maintain 0.5 MOA groupings with the 105 MKZ in my 18" ARP. The freebore in my 20" ARP that I used on this hunt is 0.035 longer.

Gotcha! So which loads were which shots on target? Is the 29.5 the far right on the 2.295? Like that velocity from a 18" ARP, too. Same as I shoot for main hunting weapon.
Back in stock 11/30/16
Thanks, I'll order up later this week...
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