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I just got my stag model 5 (6.8 spc) and on the 7th round I had a double feed with the c products mag. that came with the rifle. The empty case was not extracted and the new round was jammed in with it. Is this a mag problem or a rifle problem. I was sighting in an eotech sight from the sitting position and had the rifle supported with weight on the magazine. Could that have caused the problem?? (I shoot my 5.56 this way and have never had a problem). I called stag and they said they would fix any problems if I it continues to happen. but I don't have enough ammo to really test it (have a shippment of ammo on the way). Any thoughts would be welcome.
 

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Did you break in the action by cycling the unloaded action back and forth several hundred times? Did you have enough lube inside and outside the bolt and bolt carrier? Did you try it with another magazine yet? What ammo were you using? Did it happen again after the first occurrence?

Give us a little more info. It may be nothing, or may be an easy cure. I'm sure some of the others may have other questions for you.

Congrats on the new rifle by the way. :)
 

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I also recently received my Stag model 5L and took it to the range for the first time. Prior to getting to the range, I lubed everything and hand cycled about 500 times and Dremeled in nice new M4 feed ramps. I sighted in with SSA 90 gr Varminters from the stock 5 round magazine. I went through 40 rounds without a single failure. I don't know if it was the prep prior to the range, the ammo, or luck but I am pleased with the results.


P.S. I did have a failure to extract while manually feeding the same ammo prior to the above range prep. Not one since.
 

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Yes I did lube the rifle well before doing anything else.(it came DRY). I am shooting 110 gr. hornady v-max. I did not cycle the bolt first (never have had to do that). It WILL NOT extract the empty case. I have only the one c products magazine (25 round) that came with the rifle news mags have not arrived yet to test them. I am pretty sure that it is the extractor. I have not cut m4 feed ramps, but I am only shooting one shot at time. Thanks for the replies.
 

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Conclusion!!!! it was a bad box of ammo. I had to search high and low to find some different brands to try and my rifle ate up everthing I fed it including a different box of the same hornady v-max. I want to add that the guys at Stag were great to work with and just as befuddled as I was. We went through alot of trial and error to narrow down the problem and they were willing to do whatever it took to get this rifle up and running. Thanks again for all the input.
 

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Hornady brass is pretty decent. Shoot off there loads then load what you want. I would take it over Rem brass any day.
 

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kalwasart said:
For the life of me, I can not understand why anyone would buy Hornady ammo! :lol: :lol: :evil:

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Don't ask how I know, but maybe because they hadn't found this forum yet. :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
 

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kalwasart said:
For the life of me, I can not understand why anyone would buy Hornady ammo! :lol: :lol: :evil:

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No Vmax bullets :D
 

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Wow this is a necro thread. True this description sounds like a FTE.
But no the 6.8 can double feed but is not as likely as the 5.56.
 

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I've never had to hand cycle any weapon, ar systems included to get them to properly feed, or to break them in. The only one I ever had to do anything different with was my DPMS 308. It was failing to close on some ammo in the first few mags. My ex-wife sent me some Disotech XFR lubricant from Afghanistan. I cleaned it again and lubed it with the XFR and I've never had any issues since. This is the slickest stuff I've ever seen, and I refuse to use anything else now. It will stay on the bolt carrier and other parts for literally hundreds of rounds. I cleaned and lubed it last week and I haven't fired it, but it's still wet. It's kind of thick as well. A friend of mine that lives across the street has a kid that bought a Bushy M4 type and he lubed with clp and came over to shoot it. He had a couple of failure to feeds in the first mag. I brought it inside and let him lube it with the XFR, and it hasn't jammed since. He fired well over a half case one afternoon, which was the second time with it, no failures of any kind, and the weapon was still well lubed. My ex-wife tried a lot of other lubes, pro m7, CLP etc., and Brownell's sent her company some free militech, which was good, but the Disotech worked better for her in the extreme changing environments of Afghanistan. She never had any issues with her M4 with it. She had it jam on her twice, non mag related in the winter up in the mountain regions near Kabul in one firefight., She said she cleared the jam, fired a couple of rounds, and it jammed again, so she switched mags, and it did the same thing. That's why she went on a search for a better lube. Never had another problem with the XFR, or some of the others, but with the XFR the weapon seems to be way smoother. Just my .02.
On a second note, I don't think double feeding is a lube problem, but rather an extractor issue. Where are the cases going when it does extract? How far do they eject?
 

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I would agree the double feed is not a lube issue. It is more a mag or extractor issue like you stated. At least with when it happened to me this seemed the root cause.

I will say though get ready to hand cycle the 6.8. It is finicky at first but gets under way when done. Maybe you can use the lube and report back. I have never heard of it before. I am a EWL and tw25 guy right now when they all run out (if ever) then I am giving the home brew Mobil one,Lucas,stp mix a shot.
 

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I got my last bottle from Midway. It lasts a long time as you don't need much, and there's really no need to keep putting more on when you shoot a lot since it doesn't burn away or sling off easily.
 
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