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Do you use 6.8 only or perhaps other 277 calibers as well?

6720 Views 59 Replies 27 Participants Last post by 1stmarine, May 4, 2016

1stmarine

Discussion Starter · Apr 19, 2016 (Edited)

I am looking into alternatives for a future build. Something Different.
I was always wondering how many shooters do we have of the other 277 calibers and which ones do you use.

Aside from the 6.8spc what do you use, why and how often? Also if you had a bad experience with one explain why if you don't mind.

270 Redding Short Action
270 Winchester
270 WSM
270 Weatherby Magnum
270 Gibbs
270 Titus
277 Wolverine
270 AR cat

Thanks.

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MDWS

· #2 · Apr 19, 2016

6.8SPC
277 Wolverine
Will have the 6.8"LR" when H releases it.
Had a 270 Win back in the day, sad I sold it, will replace it at some point.

XLR8

· #3 · Apr 19, 2016

Two different home built rifles in 68 spc that have become my primary rifles for deer hunting when I'm not carrying a bow.
And of course a 270Win, you can find ammo for it anywhere, it's flat shooting and has more than enough power to kill anything in North America.

Texas Hog Man

· #4 · Apr 19, 2016

270 win

I've always liked the looks of the 270wsm--- but my problem is when looking at ballistics specs, pricing, availability of brass and ammo--- I always end up sticking with the "most common" calibers ------all the others seem to split the difference (ballisticly) between "the most common calibers" and tend to be at least double the price (ammo and brass)--- you wildcat guys have the bug to tinker more than I do--- I like reloading and perfecting loads but I just cant rationalize the cost of "specialized" or "wildcat" calibers over what I have now

ba68rowdy

· #5 · Apr 19, 2016

270 Win

Since I got into the 6.8 the old Remmy just sits in the safe. Nothing wrong with the Remmy I just prefer less recoil and I "never" shoot over 200 yards.

constructor

· #6 · Apr 19, 2016

Had a typ 26" 270 in the late 70s and early 80s. 130gr bullets at warp speed was my first experience with DRT. It changed my mind from slow and heavy to light and fast. Later I built a lightweight sheep/goat gun in 270 but I always wanted a 270-08 in a Rem #7

sfsmedic

· #7 · Apr 19, 2016

Several length 6.8 SPC IIs. Imagine that.

That's it for .277s granted the other rifles just sit these days while the 6.8s put in work.

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1stmarine

Discussion Starter · #8 · Apr 19, 2016 (Edited)

constructor said:
Had a typ 26" 270 in the late 70s and early 80s. 130gr bullets at warp speed was my first experience with DRT. It changed my mind from slow and heavy to light and fast. Later I built a lightweight sheep/goat gun in 270 but I always wanted a 270-08 in a Rem #7

For most hunting I see little need for something larger than the 270 and even the 270-08 and I see the potential of this round the same way the 7mm-08 does everthing the 260 and the 308w do, but better.
I would say the only exception are the 180gr-190gr for limited close encounters with the largest animals but other than that, the 270 and 7mm offspring beat the parent at any other role.
In the long range department the 7mm 168gr berger can be driven at similar speeds to the 260, creedmoore, etc.. and they deliver extra range and momentum with the same or even slightly
better trajectories.

I cannot understand why the 270 redding short action is not more popular but that right there has the potential to take care of anything from varmints to the largest Elk with more authority than
any of the 6.5 short action with a .470 bolt face.

Ed308

· #9 · Apr 19, 2016 (Edited)

1stmarine said:
I cannot understand why the 270 redding short action is not more popular but that right there has the potential to take care of anything from varmints to the largest Elk with more authority than any of the 6.5 short action with a .470 bolt face.

Wasn't Mark at MDWS ordering reamers for 270 Redding Short Action a while back? Whats would be the difference between a 270 Redding and a 270AR? I can't find much on the web regarding the 270 Redding.

Never mind..., found something that shows a 270 Redding as having around 10 more grs of powder.

Texas Hog Man

· #10 · Apr 19, 2016

Ed308 said:
Wasn't Mark at MDWS ordering reamers for 270 Redding Short Action a while back? Whats would be the difference between a 270 Redding and a 270AR? I can't find much on the web regarding the 270 Redding.

Mark talked about doing some other chambers like a 7-08, 338, 358, and 270-08 for the nextgen barrels, but I think that all fell through

1stmarine

Discussion Starter · #11 · Apr 19, 2016 (Edited)

Ed308 said:
Wasn't Mark at MDWS ordering reamers for 270 Redding Short Action a while back? Whats would be the difference between a 270 Redding and a 270AR? I can't find much on the web regarding the 270 Redding.

Never mind..., found something that shows a 270 Redding as having around 10 more grs of powder.

It is a turbo design. A fashionable 30 degree shoulder angle and nice improved design.

With quality brass and a 25" barrel it could push a 150gr VLD to 2900fps. A vld like the nosler ABLR has a G1 ballistic coefficient of .625!
This produces 7.2 mils at 1000 yards and trans-sonic range past 1,400 yards give and take. 6.5mm or 308w do not come anywhere close.
Many 130-140gr loads can be launched at 3000fps that is in line with several off-the-shelf 270 winchester loads and a 90-100gr bullet could be driven up to 3,500fps shooting like a laser beam.

270 redding SA ... the little case that could.

Of course in the .470 bolt face you also have the amazing 270-284 and the actual parent 284 in 7mm that never understood why it didn't become more popular.
Those are specially well suited for a mauser M98 type action but otherwise can enjoy the extra room of a long action. But then why not the 270 or the 280 respectively?
http://www.accuratereloading.com/270284win.html

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Texas Hog Man

· #12 · Apr 19, 2016 (Edited)

1stmarine said:
It is a turbo design. A fashionable 30 degree shoulder angle and nice improved design.

With quality brass and a 25" barrel it could push a 150gr VLD to 2900fps. A vld like the nosler ABLR has a G1 ballistic coefficient of .625!
This produces 7.2 mils at 1000 yards and trans-sonic range past 1,400 yards give and take. 6.5mm or 308w do not come anywhere close.
Many 130-140gr loads can be launched at 3000fps that is in line with several off-the-shelf 270 winchester loads and a 90-100gr bullet could be driven up to 3,500fps shooting like a laser beam.

270 redding SA ... the little case that could.

see--- it looks great--- but then I think .........." I have a $400 wally world rem 700 in 270 win---it pushes the 150 ABLR to 3036fps with crappy cheep range pick up brass, and with sorted remmy brass it holds 1/4 moa or better--- sure its not a short action, but with factory ammo at $16-30/box, and once fired brass available for .11/round or new brass for .30/round, easy to find and cheep ammo, brass, reloading dies, and almost every bolt gun ever made is chambered in it--- why would I want a specialty round like the 270 RSA?"

I know--- cause I can ;-)

1stmarine

Discussion Starter · #13 · Apr 19, 2016

Texas Hog Man said:
see--- it looks great--- but then I think .........." I have a $400 wally world rem 700 in 270 win---it pushes the 150 ABLR to 3036fps with crappy cheep range pick up brass, and with sorted remmy brass it holds 1/4 moa or better--- sure its not a short action, but with factory ammo at $16-30/box, and once fired brass available for .11/round or new brass for .30/round, easy to find and cheep ammo, brass, reloading dies, and almost every bolt gun ever made is chambered in it--- why would I want a specialty round like the 270 RSA?"

I know--- cause I can ;-)

For the bolt action you will be well served with that 270.
But what about a nice AR10 type with a 24" barrel? This can make a true long range upper that leaves the Creedmoore, 260 and 308 in the dust. I know, I know... we also have the 7mm/08 that will do great too.

CaptGrumpy

· #14 · Apr 19, 2016

I love my 6.8 Rem 700 and Ruger Hawkeye 6.8 but also use my Savage 270 as well as my stainless Savage 270 WSM for long range deer and elk

Texas Hog Man

· #15 · Apr 19, 2016 (Edited)

1stmarine said:
For the bolt action you will be well served with that 270.
But what about a nice AR10 type with a 24" barrel? This can make a true long range upper that leaves the Creedmoore, 260 and 308 in the dust. I know, I know... we also have the 7mm/08 that will do great too.

I think EVERY caliber has a place in this world , I'm not trying to debate what is better--- I agree that short action calibers are good too, and put it in a long barrel AR chassis and it makes a good long range gun (though possibly heavier, longer than a same length bolt gun, and more expensive), also the AR chassis guns have mag length limitations that bolt guns don't --- but what I'm leading to is "at what cost" I have more than a 270 and a 6.8 --- got plenty different calibers for different uses, but like I said, the gains over costs just don't seem to add up for me when it comes to "different" or wildcat calibers ---- not saying they are bad--- wildcats are where the great "normal" offerings come from--- they just aren't my cup o tea when it comes down to comparing the excess costs for custom barrels, dies, expensive ammo, brass etc --- the small gains in speed and distance over the out of pocket costs just aren't for me

I understand how "normal" calibers can get boring after a while so I like to observe and enjoy what you and others do in the wildcat and "off caliber" offerings - just not for me - that's all

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1stmarine

Discussion Starter · #16 · Apr 19, 2016

Texas Hog Man said:
I think EVERY caliber has a place in this world , I'm not trying to debate what is better--- I agree that short action calibers are good too, and put it in a long barrel AR chassis and it makes a good long range gun (though possibly heavier, longer than a same length bolt gun, and more expensive), also the AR chassis guns have mag length limitations that bolt guns don't --- but what I'm leading to is "at what cost" I have more than a 270 and a 6.8 --- got plenty different calibers for different uses, but like I said, the gains over costs just don't seem to add up for me when it comes to "different" or wildcat calibers ---- not saying they are bad--- wildcats are where the great "normal" offerings come from--- they just aren't my cup o tea when it comes down to comparing the excess costs for custom barrels, dies, expensive ammo, brass etc --- the small gains in speed and distance over the out of pocket costs just aren't for me

I understand how "normal" calibers can get boring after a while so I like to observe and enjoy what you and others do in the wildcat and "off caliber" offerings - just not for me - that's all

I agree with you. Most people would do fine with just a Mossberg 500 in 12ga and a Glock 19.
Also for rifle target and hunting the 5.56 and 308w will take care of the needs of 95% of the shooters.

But how fun would that be? Plus I don't think there is a single firearm owner who doesn't want something else to try.

But I agree caliber consolidation and simplicity are also great approaches. Nothing wrong with that. Perhaps is better to own less and shoot more in the end, unless one is a collector or something.

nonnieselman

· #17 · Apr 20, 2016

First rifle I ever bought with my own money was a 270 when I was 11 I think. Killed a bunch of deer with it. But it's sat in the safe for 7 or 8 years now. Places I hunt I always take my 223 or 6.8 AR and 300WM. Covers everything I need them to.

I still load for my buddy's 270 if that counts.

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eastern_hunter

· #18 · Apr 20, 2016

Have been a bolt rifle guy ... usually boomers. Some years ago I bought a restocked J.C. HIggins 270 that was built on an FN Belgium commercial Mauser action. Was going to take it apart and build a cannon with the action. Made the mistake of checking to see if it held a group. Was considerably better than 1 moa. Always had some difficulty doin' in an already accurate rifle, so it is still together as a 270. That FN action is lovely. Have two others in larger bores ... a 338-06 and a .416 Aagaard (a light 416 made by necking up a .376 Steyr to .416).

270 Win sure can make a projectile go fast ;-)

Very pleased with the three 6.8 ARs. Two have ARP barrels and one has an 18" fluted WOA barrel and is a tack driver.

1stmarine

Discussion Starter · #19 · Apr 20, 2016

eastern_hunter said:
Have been a bolt rifle guy ... usually boomers. Some years ago I bought a restocked J.C. HIggins 270 that was built on an FN Belgium commercial Mauser action. Was going to take it apart and build a cannon with the action. Made the mistake of checking to see if it held a group. Was considerably better than 1 moa. Always had some difficulty doin' in an already accurate rifle, so it is still together as a 270. That FN action is lovely. Have two others in larger bores ... a 338-06 and a .416 Aagaard (a light 416 made by necking up a .376 Steyr to .416).

270 Win sure can make a projectile go fast ;-)

Very pleased with the three 6.8 ARs. Two have ARP barrels and one has an 18" fluted WOA barrel and is a tack driver.

If a rifle is a shooter that is a keeper.
Those civilian Mauser actions are so sweet and well made.

We are surrounded by temptation!...

http://www.e-sarcoinc.com/dumoulin-mauser-action.aspx

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XLR8

· #20 · Apr 20, 2016

1stmarine said:
If a rifle is a shooter that is a keeper.
Those civilian Mauser actions are so sweet and well made.

We are surrounded by temptation!...

http://www.e-sarcoinc.com/dumoulin-mauser-action.aspx

There is one in a local pawn shop I go to that specializes mainly in musical instruments that has a 270Win built on a commercial Mauser action with a medium heavy sporter barrel and a fine looking piece of walnut.
But he is wanting ridiculous money for it, that doesn't stop me from admiring it though every time I go in there for guitar strings and such for the kids.

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