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what are they? Clearly carbine is shorter but what is the overall effect of this?
 

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The mid length is a much smoother system and less harsh on your parts, especially when the carbine gas system is over gassed
The only negative with the mid length system for the SPC is if the gas port is not set up properly, you can have short stroking issues with the fast powders.


A properly set-up carbine length gas system is OK.
 

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Carbine length gas ports are located closer to the chamber and gases are still burning at a higher rate and pressure at the carbine port which sends hotter gases back to the bolt carrier and receiver, and the gas pulse is sharper and more violent due to the pressures. This is harder on the bolt, especially during full auto firing. M4 (carbine) bolt life is less than M16 (rifle length) actions.

The midlength gas, recommended by Mark Westrom of Armalite, is further down the barrel to the point where the pulse is smoother and lower pressured, plus without the extreme heat the carbine gas system presents.

That being said, in civilian, LE, and many military uses, both systems are very reliable for thousands of rounds. You can tune the carbine gas system with buffers and springs to reduce stress somewhat on your components.

Midlength forends are more comfortable to many because they offer more real estate for your hand positions. If you have rails you have more room on the midlengths. Sight radius is longer on midlengths if you use a front sight.

I've never had a problem with a carbine gassed rifle. So I don't know when the bolt will give me problems on mine, if they ever will.
 

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Well Del Ton has what appears to be a carbine length 16 inch barrel kit for $198. I haven't found anything negative about these barrels at this point and the price is right. The wait time is a little long, but I THINK they are everywhere right now. I went ahead and pulled the trigger on one, but I have 12-16 weeks to change my mind.
 

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rmcdermid said:
Well Del Ton has what appears to be a carbine length 16 inch barrel kit for $198. I haven't found anything negative about these barrels at this point and the price is right. The wait time is a little long, but I THINK they are everywhere right now. I went ahead and pulled the trigger on one, but I have 12-16 weeks to change my mind.
I would base it more on the twist rate, if it has M4 Feedramps, and whether it is chrome lined or not, rather than the gas port location.
 

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paulosantos said:
rmcdermid said:
Well Del Ton has what appears to be a carbine length 16 inch barrel kit for $198. I haven't found anything negative about these barrels at this point and the price is right. The wait time is a little long, but I THINK they are everywhere right now. I went ahead and pulled the trigger on one, but I have 12-16 weeks to change my mind.
I would base it more on the twist rate, if it has M4 Feedramps, and whether it is chrome lined or not, rather than the gas port location.
Agreed.
 

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It is not chrome lined....i believe it is a 1/9 twist.(i know it isnt as good as 1/7, but i will be shooting mostly 55 grains out of it.) I was just curious about the effects of the carbine length.
 
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