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There needs to be a Federal LAW against domestic terrorism.
The second a police car gets smashed or burned, the second someone throws a molotov cocktail, the second they loot a business, they should be arrested.
Minimum time in jail, 30 days. No bail. Entered into a national data base.
Once a data base is established there will be a huge list of the traveling peacefull protestors who are actual terrorists.
Investigate their funding, if George Soros arrest him for domestic terrorism.
 

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All law abiding citizen with firearms protecting property, that just happened to be white, will be labeled a white supremacists and placed on that domestic terrorist list.
 

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So I've seen some misinformation like this spreading around for awhile now. The leftists claim right wing violence and terrorism is vastly more of a threat than left wing. Well, the problem is, these sources don't cite left wing violence. There's plenty of it, there are records of it over many years. But it's not labeled as left wing, they just count them as regular old murders and violence. But as soon as a white person commits violence on a POC, it's the end of the world and they claim white supremacists. Now to be fair, there are some Nazi's out there that have done some terrible shit like that Dylan Roof kid and some others, and they all need to hang. But if they started to count left wing radical incidents as left wing instead of normal, non-hate crime, non political violence... well the system would break.

BLM = Marxist (Radical Left Wing Terrorists)
Antifa = Communists (Radical Left Wing Terrorists)

But you can't argue with their terminology and that's the danger of it all.
 

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September 11th... we will NOT forget. This act of terrorism happened before most of these idiots were born. To them, it's ancient history that does NOT get related truthfully to them. Therefore (to them) is not factual.
 

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I like using their tactics and rhetoric against then, in all discussions and conversation I refer to rioters, antifa, BLM and Dems as Mostly Violent Protestors, Anti-Civil Rights, Freedom Haters, Black Lies Matter, Domestic Terrorists and Left-Wing Nuts. I ask them why they hate the Constitution and Bill of Rights? No matter how articulate and how many "fake facts" they spew, I tell them they're simply not smart enough to understand and to truely educate themselves. For the most part, it is surprisingly how quickly you can take the wind out of their sails.
 
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When I hear the Antifa and BLM start rattling chains and talking about civil war I am reminded of a line in Copper Head Road . They had better wait a generation before they start , at least until everyone Charlie taught a thing or two is dead and gone .

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When I hear the Antifa and BLM start rattling chains and talking about civil war I am reminded of a line in Copper Head Road . They had better wait a generation before they start , at least until everyone Charlie taught a thing or two is dead and gone .

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Muhammad taught this generation a thing or two, they might want to wait a while longer ...
 

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I had been holding off on commenting in this thread because I genuinely dislike pissing people off. First of all, I believe anyone rioting and destroying other's property should go to jail. There is a clear distinction between peaceful protest and rioting. On the other hand, it is our right and duty to make our country better. Sometimes that means teaching kids right from wrong, sometimes that means helping others in our communities, and sometimes, that means protesting in the streets. I was going to quote the U.S. Constitution and its preamble, but that seemed too preachy. Some of us learned the Preamble word-for-word as children and take it seriously. Many of us here have taken an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States.

I find it sad and a little bit pitiful that so many see BLM as a terrorist organization. There are certainly a few dangerous extremists that are part of that organization, but MOST people who are involved in the movement are normal Americans. I know people who have marched for the BLM movement and they are just regular people. They believe in trying to make the "more perfect union" and to "establish justice" like the Preamble charged us to do. I live in a relatively liberal area and have black friends, but it seems that I live in an entirely different COUNTRY than the one you guys talk about. Geez, someone following this thread would think that every city in the country is burning to the ground. In fact, there are only a few places where there had been rioting. Most of that is being done by troublemakers and criminals who don't care about politics, they just use the current situation as an excuse to raise hell. Use your brains, people. If there were some highly organized movement, we would have seen numerous snipers, organized military-style activity and the use of sophisticated explosives to create mass destruction. All you actually see is yahoos with fireworks and molotov cocktails. Most of them are not even armed... in the United States... where anyone with little money can buy a firearm. Think about it. Where are the highly-trained armed thugs that many right-wing news sources have been talking about for months?

On the other hand, it is easy to find videos of white-supremacist groups working on military tactics and training their members with firearms and explosives. They do not believe in our Constitution and they want to overthrow our country. I have never heard a BLM supporter talk about a civil war, but I have seen people on this site bring it up. Guess who worries me more.

So, to respond to the original post, I am personally much more worried about white supremacists. Then again, one of my children is of Asian descent. Having a non-white kid in the family exposes you to some of ugly side of our country that most of you never notice. You guys should know that she is afraid even to travel near conservative rallies these days. Think about that for a minute. She is an American citizen who fears to be around people like us because she is not white. Have any of you ever discovered that some "patriots" have threatened your children? That is why I get angry when normally good people say stupid things that essentially mean that because my daughter's skin is not white, she is the enemy.

I have followed this site since its inception, partly because I consider the 6.8 SPC to be an excellent hunting cartridge and partly because I think highly of the people here. I am beginning to reconsider that second point.
 

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I look at all people as purple until they prove otherwise. I guess red/blue could make purple. Was Navy for 30 years. I can in the upper 90% judge ones character within 5 minutes. That character means a whole lot more than the color of a persons skin or their beliefs. It's how actions are presented that I can't stand. Peaceful...no problem, burning down your neighborhood...problem.
 

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Disagree. Let's set aside the fact that the entire premise for their movement is bogus. On top of the rioting and looting that shows up everywhere they march, it's hard to argue that BLM isn't a terrorist group when their leaders say things like:

The president of Greater New York Black Lives Matter statement concerning if the movement fails to achieve meaningful change during nationwide protests over George Floyd’s killing by Minneapolis police officers:

“If this country doesn’t give us what we want, then we will burn down this system and replace it.

Black Lives Matter Toronto co-founder Yusra Khogali made a Facebook post in which she claimed white people suffer from "recessive genetic defects" and should be wiped out.

They sound very peaceful and inclusive.

As for your assertion white supremacists groups that are apparently all over the internet training for a government overthrow.... how many businesses and government buildings have they burned and looted? Surely it's in the hundreds to thousands like BLM? No? Sounds to me like your personal feelings are interfering with the facts of what this group is doing. But they aren't alone. Antifa shows up right along side them and uses them for their own violent purposes.

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I find the whole "theme" of BLM to be arrogant and racist to its very core. Asian lives don't matter? Latino lives don't matter? Pacific Islander lives don't matter? Native American lives don't matter? Caucasian lives don't matter? I'm sorry, but, ALL lives matter. One of the first people in that bunch was arrested for trafficking a minor for sex. That, in and of itself IS slavery. Courtroom litigators howl on about fruit of the poison tree when evidence is found/used which may/may not have been obtained within the confines of a search warrant. I view the behavior of this human enslaver to be akin to the very thing howled about in court. The battle cry in my city from the BLM types is to defund/dismantle the Police Department. Well... if they get their way, it'd be a little easier to enslave minors for sex trafficking, now, wouldn't it?

Our City Council is lousy with Marxist extremist types, flaunting their Socialistic agenda. My city is a test bed for this vile agenda, and experiment to see if it takes hold and works to feed their agenda. Yes, some good/well meaning folks are sucked in and believe they're supporting an honorable agenda touted by MSM. It doesn't make these folks evil, just naïve and foolish.

This was recorded in my city during the "chop" rioting... this is what was openly proclaimed as agenda...


And, as for a claim that non-whites fear Conservatives? Sorry, doesn't hold water in my world. I'm half Native Alaskan. One of my cousins was married to a Taiwanese. Another of my cousins is married to a Chinese. My mother was white, my father Alaska Native. Another cousin was married to a South American, and is currently dating a black. And NONE of it is even a "topic" at family gatherings. We're just family, having a good time gathering together. And, the majority of those I've listed view Rush Limbaugh as a liberal. In spite of the fact that my father drank in every word Bill Clinton uttered during his time in office, these same Conservatives within my family adored my father as a man. My opinion was known, Bill Clinton should've been tried and imprisoned... yet my father and I had no fear of one another. We were family. I've had close friends who were dyed in the wool Democrats and we were able to tell one another we thought the other was crazy... but, there was no "fear" felt by either one. Good people can agree to disagree and enjoy common ground on other topics.
 

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Maybe some day I will meet one on the street? shrugs
 
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Ratdog, It is mainly in the last six months or so that the abuse has started. Pretty much after the "China Plague" crap started in Washington. Here in NC, there have traditionally been few Asians, and, as my Wife once said, traditional stereotypes of Asians, have been good (hard working, smart, etc). I am almost 60 now, and I cannot recall major leaders in this country deliberately trying to divide Americans and turn them against each other. The irony is that this is exactly the tactic used by our enemies to weaken out country. It seems that it is now a major industry to sew panic in our country.

I have, however, lived long enough to have seen normally good and logical people suddenly get paranoid and convince themselves that the end of our civilization is near. One was, in fact, just before Bill Clinton was elected. The Doom and Gloom crowd had gotten me a little worried too. Enough that I recall pushing the bank to finish my house loan because I was afraid the economy would tank. Ironically, only a year or so later, the economy was doing well and interest rates got so good that I refinanced the thing.

Sometimes, it is important for us to remember that it is not the liberals who own the majority of the firearms and ammunition in this country. That is why I don't fear today's crop of liberals. They tend to be naive, if anything. It is actually kind of funny, since the majority of liberals that I have met over the years have no concept of the fear that some extreme right-wingers have of them. Or, for that matter, how many right-leaning Americans routinely maintain a stock of several hundreds to several thousands of rounds of ammunition, just in case. It is simply beyond their comprehension.
 

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Ratdog,

Sometimes, it is important for us to remember that it is not the liberals who own the majority of the firearms and ammunition in this country. That is why I don't fear today's crop of liberals. They tend to be naive, if anything.
You have just stated some of biggest reasons for fearing them. They are naive and they vote. They will blindly elect an idiot like Bidet who has already tried twice to run and was never the best choice but somehow now believe he is the best choice? No, I don't fear them starting physical violence. That would be short lived for them but they can really screw things up if they vote that moron in.
 

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I had been holding off on commenting in this thread because I genuinely dislike pissing people off. First of all, I believe anyone rioting and destroying other's property should go to jail. There is a clear distinction between peaceful protest and rioting. On the other hand, it is our right and duty to make our country better. Sometimes that means teaching kids right from wrong, sometimes that means helping others in our communities, and sometimes, that means protesting in the streets. I was going to quote the U.S. Constitution and its preamble, but that seemed too preachy. Some of us learned the Preamble word-for-word as children and take it seriously. Many of us here have taken an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States.

I find it sad and a little bit pitiful that so many see BLM as a terrorist organization. There are certainly a few dangerous extremists that are part of that organization, but MOST people who are involved in the movement are normal Americans. I know people who have marched for the BLM movement and they are just regular people. They believe in trying to make the "more perfect union" and to "establish justice" like the Preamble charged us to do. I live in a relatively liberal area and have black friends, but it seems that I live in an entirely different COUNTRY than the one you guys talk about. Geez, someone following this thread would think that every city in the country is burning to the ground. In fact, there are only a few places where there had been rioting. Most of that is being done by troublemakers and criminals who don't care about politics, they just use the current situation as an excuse to raise hell. Use your brains, people. If there were some highly organized movement, we would have seen numerous snipers, organized military-style activity and the use of sophisticated explosives to create mass destruction. All you actually see is yahoos with fireworks and molotov cocktails. Most of them are not even armed... in the United States... where anyone with little money can buy a firearm. Think about it. Where are the highly-trained armed thugs that many right-wing news sources have been talking about for months?

On the other hand, it is easy to find videos of white-supremacist groups working on military tactics and training their members with firearms and explosives. They do not believe in our Constitution and they want to overthrow our country. I have never heard a BLM supporter talk about a civil war, but I have seen people on this site bring it up. Guess who worries me more.

So, to respond to the original post, I am personally much more worried about white supremacists. Then again, one of my children is of Asian descent. Having a non-white kid in the family exposes you to some of ugly side of our country that most of you never notice. You guys should know that she is afraid even to travel near conservative rallies these days. Think about that for a minute. She is an American citizen who fears to be around people like us because she is not white. Have any of you ever discovered that some "patriots" have threatened your children? That is why I get angry when normally good people say stupid things that essentially mean that because my daughter's skin is not white, she is the enemy.

I have followed this site since its inception, partly because I consider the 6.8 SPC to be an excellent hunting cartridge and partly because I think highly of the people here. I am beginning to reconsider that second point.
You said it is easy to find videos of White Supremacist groups conducting military tactics/training thier members with firearms and explosive. You can also find left wing groups and radical Islamic groups here in the US conducting the same types of training. Those groups are just as big a threat.

BLM by the way was founded by two extreme left wing Marxist, who admittedly claim they have been trained in Marxism. You need to go to their web site and look at their goals. No offense, but you need to educate yourself on them and the leftist tactics. It starts with protests, moves to civil disobedience. From there it moves to violence and then rebellion in the streets. After that it moves to guerrilla warfare, a latent incipient insurgency. It's not that far off if people continue to say it's nothing more than peaceful protests, then it will raise it's ugly head and devour us all.

Already BLM has amassed an estimated Billion dollars, which nobody seems to know where it has gone. Peaceful, no I don't think so.

I have seen the right be called Nazis, called white supremacist/KKK, said to disenchant voters of color and on the left. I have heard the right be said to try and limit others freedom of speech. Yet the truth of it is it's all false accusations.

The truth is the Nazis were socialist, that's not a right wing thing, it's a leftist Ideology. The truth is, the KKK was founded by the democrats in the deep south after the civil war. It has been proven in multiple places in the US that the left are the ones who repeatedly violate voter laws. One individual has came forward and admitted it to a newspaper (anonymously) about voter fraud and throwing several races. How many times in the last several y years has a republican won on election night to lose several days later with mysterious boxes of uncounted democrat votes are suddenly found in the trunk of someones car. What about the right limiting freedom of speech? It doesn't happen! However, we clearly see multiple people on the left who if you disagree with, will call you a racist, homophobic, a bigot, a sexist, and what not. Then the left often says the right needs to be silenced for not agreeing with the left. That sir is trying to limit my first amendment rights.

I mean you no disrespect, but I have to disagree with your BLM characteristics. I served this county 24 years, and would do it again if I could. I take offense when I see people burn bibles, churches and destroy historical statues. I take offense when highly paid athletes take a knee during the national anthem in support of the anti-American Marxist group called BLM. I take offense sir when BLM tells me I have white privilege, because of the pigment of my skin. That;s not only racist, it's a lie. I don't even know what white privilege is. When I was 12 years old, my first paying job was picking tomatoes in the fields with the migrant workers. I made a whopping 10 cents a hamper of tomatoes I picked. I will never forget it, it is one of the most back breaking jobs I've ever worked. I have earned every penny I have ever made!

I have no like for any racial supremacy movement of any kind. I fear no man, but I'm not stupid and try to take on someone much bigger, stronger and younger. I however will not step back from the likes of BLM, Antifa or the White Supremacist. I fear only GOD ALMIGHTY, but I pray God steps in to save our country, our way of life and our God given freedoms.

Have a nice day!
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