I got these a couple weekends ago. 1 shot kills with SSA's TTX ammo. I don't do any of that tricky camera stuff to make the hogs look bigger than life, but I should have, as the white hog looks smaller than he really was. The black hog was approx 150lbs. Shot him hit in the shoulder.......he never moved. The white hog, was approx 175lbs I shot him thru the heart. He ran 50 yards. He was a really old hog.....his grinders were wore down to the gums. A friend got the drop on him first .......but his (my)gun didn't fire. I had loaned him my shotgun. he checked the chamber saw the shell. He didn't know that I had shot a hog with it the night before and had forgotten to rechamber it :? .