[Raph]

I've seen a lot of talk and even a few pics of really short barreled AR's (AR pistol) on here. Do that many people have a class III licence, or is there some special way to register it as a pistol legally (of-course)? Mavericks has a pic posted in this thread showing what I'm talking about.

viewtopic.php?f=46&t=5871&start=25

My thought is that this would be fun in a 9mm. Smaller to hide under a jacket like a Scorpion, but nowhere near as large as AR15. Can you just purchase an upper and such for these? I've never seen one, or parts for sale for them at any shows.

 

[ron169]

Building an AR pistol is actually pretty easy and cheap, probably cheaper than most AR builds. First you need a dedicated Pistol Lower. That is a lower receiver that was built, stamped, and registered as a pistol. You dont even have to pay a tax stamp for the lower like you do on a short barreled rifle. Here is where it gets a little tricky. On an AR Pistol, there are 2 main rules you have to follow.
1) you cant have a stock, if you put a stock on pistol lower with a barrel less than 16 inches, its considered an unregistered SBR.... and illegal!
2) WHen in pistol form, you cannot attach a vertical foregrip to it. That would be considered an unregistered "Any Other Weapon" and as such, a violation of federal law!

Tada, a Spikes stamped Pistol lower:
http://www.spikestactical.com/z/index.p ... ucts_id=51

 

[Lastrites]

Something to wet the appetite:

 

[Clint]

and what about the buffer tubes and buffers?

Standard CAR?
special pistol?

 

[ron169]

and what about the buffer tubes and buffers?

Standard CAR?
special pistol?

Spikes has a dedicated Pistol buffer tube setup, that you can even get a Rubber padding for. I remember one company had a more compact buffer tube, but I believe it messed the timing up some.

http://www.spikestactical.com/z/index.p ... ucts_id=69

 

[Clint]

That looks like the same length ( 7" inside ) as a standard CAR tube with a std CAR buffer.
So there should be no buffer related issues.

 

[Lastrites]

My buffer tube is a carbine that's been modified, locking channel filled and the end rounded, then dipped in Plasti-Dip and then sprayed with Plasti-Dip spray. Spikes just recently changed their tubes to one that doesn't have the cap end piece, to one that is threaded internally. RRA make's a really nice fluted one that I likely may buy and then cover in the spray Plasti-Dip, it cost's about $25.


eta: stay the away from the GRS short buffer tube, it sucks.

 

[Raph]

Anybody try building one of these in a 6.8 yet? What about with a 12" max. barrel? If so, how does it handle?