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I purchase my .50DTC ammo from Ben aka Mr. Kubota. He charges 60.00 a box of 25 for the ap stuff. he charged me an extra .30 cents to load them with H50BMG powder, driving the muzzle velocity up to 3000fps out of a 30" barrel and around 2750fps out of a 24" barrel. He also charges less to reload once fired brass. So I can buy 25 rounds, shoot em up and send him the brass and pay less for him to "reload" them and send them back. Just thought I would share that as I am a proud new father of 50 black tipped hot .50dtc rounds.