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I recently picked up my first LPVO so not having traditional cross-hairs and shooting super tight groups is killing my OCD and using the tip of the chevron is definitely taking some getting used to.
So, when zeroing an optic with a battle reticle, like the ACSS, what do you think is an acceptable 100 yard group?
 

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I have some targets that are inverted triangles that I will sight "point to point" with the chevron on the ACSS reticle. Barring that I will stick a square pasty on the target so that it is a diamond instead of a square and do point to point.
 

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With an LPVO , I'd say if you're grouping them around 3 to 4 moa it's definitely acceptable. It's not designed for target shooting so I wouldn't expect 1 moa or under.

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Yeah, I figured minute of man was the name of the game here but I just wanted to see if anyone was actually producing tight groups with it.
 

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I've done decent w my 1st or 2nd gen PA1-6x. I use it for load evals on my 16" and now 18" ARP 6.8 and can get just under MOA which is probably the limit of my shooting ability.

Years ago I had it on my 12.5ARP and shot a 5x7" group at 500yds w factory S&B 110fmj.

I recently got one of PAs 1-8x but have not mounted it yet.
 

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I went back out today, on my own, and was able to take my time.
In all I spent four hours looking down the scope so now everything appears a hair fuzzy. lol
I shot several different brands/loads of ammo and found three I felt were superior, a few that were serviceable and the rest were just a mess.

A brief run down is as follows...
AE M193(50/100): 1"-2" / 3"-4"
Frontier M193(50/100): 1"-2" / 3"-4"(This seemed to group oddly compared to the AE M193)
Frontier 556 62gr SP(100): 2.5"-3.5"
Federal Fusion 223 62gr(50/100): 2" / 3"
Federal 223 55gr Nosler Tip(50/100): 1.25-1.50" / 1.25"-3"
Winchester 556 55gr FMJ(50/100): 2" / 4"
Winchester 223 64gr Power Point(50/100): 2"-2.5" / 3.5"
Hornady Black 556 62gr(50/100): 1" / 4"
Hornady Black 223 62gr(50/100): 1"-2.5" / 5.5"
Hornady 223 55gr SP(50/100): 0.5"-2" / 2"
Fiocchi Extrema 223 55gr PSP(50/100): 1"-2" / 1"-2"
PPU 223 Match 69gr HPBT(50/100): 1.25" / 3.5"-4"
Black Hills 223 68gr Heavy Match HP(50/100): 3" / 3.5"
Black Hills 223 69gr Match(50/100): 2" / 4.5"
Black HIlls 223 75gr Match HP(50/100): 4.25" / 4.5"
Black HIlls 223 77gr HP(50/100): 1.25" / 1.5"
 

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I was going to say that the ammo will be more limiting than the optic, but your data demonstrates that. 1.5" with Black Hills 77gr shows what your rifle and that optic are capable of (try the IMI Razorcore sometime)
 

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I do my own reloads and have a BA 18" stainless barrel. I have the PA Gen 3 1-8x and have shot sub-MOA out to 200 yds.
 

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I was going to say that the ammo will be more limiting than the optic, but your data demonstrates that. 1.5" with Black Hills 77gr shows what your rifle and that optic are capable of (try the IMI Razorcore sometime)
I am on my last box of Magtech 77 grain Match HP. I can't find more of it right now. I bought a couple hundred of the IMI Razorcore. I hope it shoots as good as the Magtech.
 
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