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Empty Brass said:
Most gun kaboomies are ammo related that I have seen. And thats quite a few.
Man remind me not to shoot with the guys you are around. :lol: :lol: :lol:

The only Kabooms I have ever seen that were not videos but in person were destruction tests done intensionally and had use behind thick concrete walls with remote trigger systems and gun mounting fixtures. Similar to proof house setups.
 

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[quote="Empty Brass":3he1v269] Most gun kaboomies are ammo related that I have seen. And thats quite a few.
Man remind me not to shoot with the guys you are around. :lol: :lol: :lol:

The only Kabooms I have ever seen that were not videos but in person were destruction tests done intensionally and had use behind thick concrete walls with remote trigger systems and gun mounting fixtures. Similar to proof house setups.[/quote:3he1v269]

In boot camp we had two blow up in kids faces one right after another. Then when I worked at OCS we had a couple more blow.
 

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This ammo does appear to have a history of issues. just two cases from the CTD forum......

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When I first got these rounds they seemed to be the best bullets for the money. However after shooting them a few times I started to notice that they blew the primers out of the back of the case. The primer came out and went into my trigger assembly and locked up my gun. The other day I went out and started to target practice with my AR-15 and when I shot the 19th round the back of the bullet exploded. After inspecting the gun and bullet I found out that I had ss109 rounds in the clip. The primer had came out of the 18th round and went into the throat of the chamber, throwing the head space off. The other round in the clip also exploded ( glad it was only one round and not more ). Now I have to go out and buy a new bolt for my rifle. So if you have these rounds or are buying these rounds watch out for this problem. (Editor note: Please have your chamber checked for excessive headspace or badly fouled chamber.)

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This ammo is of reasonably good quality for the money spent as far as reliability is concerned however as with anything else you get what you pay for. I have fired roughly 60 rounds out of my DPMS AP4 w/16" barrel and have had only 1 issue thus far. Further down you will see a review from "frogman" in which a bullet lost its primer and lodged in the throat of the chamber. I can vouch for this event as it happened to me as well. I have had the weapon inspected by a gunsmith who assures me it was not the weapon's fault through excessive headspace or a fouled chamber as the weapon is new (less than 400 rounds shot through the weapon) and was adequately lubricated. A member of the team I shoot with is a reloader who mentioned the only way this will happen is if the bullet is overcharged or is poorly made. Please note that in the roughly 60 rounds shot through the new weapon there has been only 1 incident where this occurred thus far. Also of note is the difference in either velocity or grain between this and standard military issue 62gr LC ammunition. It will account for about a 1.5 - 2 inch vertical difference when the rounds are shot at 25 meters.

and the link for the above
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/AMM200-5.html

have also heard all kinds of bad things about steel cased ammo and a hot barrel.....
 

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Empty Brass said:
I skimmed all the posts and that sucks dude.

But Please contact S&B too. They might have had a bad run. Never now.
You might have an ammo issue. Most gun kaboomies are ammo related that I have seen. And thats quite a few.
I would inspect the ammo too. First, withn a micrometer or caliper measure five to ten loaded round's neck diameter. Let us know what that dimension is. Second, weigh five to ten empty cases after you deprime them. Let us know what they weigh.
I experienced a kaboom with a Vamet 76 .223 around 20 years ago. The ammo was surplus Portugese marked FMN. The chamber on my rifle was minimum SAAMI, the ammo fired fine until the rifle got hot. I fired a round and the blast exited the ejection port. The case head was blown off the round. What happened was the brass was very thick in the neck. Empty cases (deprimed) averaged 100 to 103 grains in weight. That's aboyt 10% heavier than average. One of the cases were ripped in half with the neck still stuck in the chamber. The back half of the case ejected OK, but the next round fed into the chamber that held the neck portion of the last round. I fired the next round not knowing anything was amiss. The bolt obviously wasn't closed because it couldn't close. The entire force of the explosion exited the ejection port. I was struck by fines and blast but no shrapnel hit me. That second bullet stuck in the barrel and the two cases that were in the chamber were formed and annealed together. I was very lucky to say the least. I couldn't see very well for ten minutes and was disgusted with the rifle (which was not to be blamed). The foreign bargain basement ammo was to blame in my case. I now reload exclusively paying extreme attention to safety.

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You should be a spokesman for shooting glasses now! That was a close one. Glad you didn't get hurt.

Eye protection, ear protection.
 

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dark1 said:
i was at the range today shooting my stag mod1 after firing about 80 rnds i was in the middle of a rapped fire string at 200 mtrs and BOOM the upper receiver blewup.
the hole reserve was totaled the bolt cracked barrel extension split in 3 places. i am OK just some pouter burns on my hand and some blood blisters on my thumb and it is bused bad.

i was shooting S&B SS109 ammo ... good stuff never had any probs with them so not sure what happened ither a hot load or ... a slow burn ???
any one elts ever have a stag blowup?? if so what did stag say it was ?
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i will have pix of the gun as soon as my dealer sends me the ones he took
Any pics yet?
 

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No not yet :( i am going to stop by the gun shop tomorrow and remind him he has the gun and all the pix of it atm he is beginning to piss me off he was saposto e mail me them a weak ago
 
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