Congrats, fast14riot! What was your load?
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6.8 on the podium again
I haven't shot my 6.8 since last August as I've been shooting sling and irons all winter ramping up for Service Rifle season. Felt good to get back on the comfortable, reliable old horse again. I had to scrounge up a couple partial boxes of my match ammo which made just enough for the match. I had 3 rounds extra in case of a shoot off. Targets were steel silhouettes, half size coyote at 660 yards, rabbit at 550 yards, 2/3 size wood chuck and full size crow at 440 yards, finally a squirrel at 220 yards. Wind was tricky, calm to 7-8 mph from 6 o'clock, fishtailing and we're shooting into a butte which causes all kinds of strange thermals and cross winds at the target you cant see even in the spotting scope!
I wasn't terribly thrilled with how I shot, but I guess it was the first match for most everyone else as I managed to eek out a 2nd in my division.
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-Alexander
I wasn't terribly thrilled with how I shot, but I guess it was the first match for most everyone else as I managed to eek out a 2nd in my division.
-Alexander
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Whoot!!!
Good shooting Alex!
Congrats!
Which range were you shooting at?
Steve
Good shooting Alex!
Congrats!
Which range were you shooting at?
Steve
Thanks! I ended up shooting my normal 110BTHP load as I found a couple partial boxes between some different range bags. I will save the 120's I was talking to you about for proper development.Congrats, fast14riot! What was your load?
Thanks Steve! This was over the hill, North of Reno, NV at Palomino Valley.Whoot!!!
Good shooting Alex!
Congrats!
Which range were you shooting at?
Steve
-Alexander
Congratulations on the match. That is some stout shooting based on your target array. Shooting steel of irregular shape is always a challenge and the crowd feedback puts more pressure on most shooters. Keep it up.
Greg
Greg
Nice shooting, winds are always fun up here.
It is a challenge, add to it all 5 targets and yardage in 3 minutes, in random order as called by your spotter and things become real fun! This match really works out those turrets. The woodchuck is probably the toughest target as it's a standing shape, roughly 5" wide by 12" tall. Better be good on your wind call. 660 coyote was a challenge just because of the 110bthp, even cruising along around 2800 they sure do drift around quite a bit. At one point I had about 4 minutes wind dialed and a hard favor to get an impact.Congratulations on the match. That is some stout shooting based on your target array. Shooting steel of irregular shape is always a challenge and the crowd feedback puts more pressure on most shooters. Keep it up.
Greg
Thanks! And congrats on your Bronze medal, btw!
-Alexander
Congratulations fast14riot!
That's impressive. If I may ask, in your competitions with the AR are you single loading magazines? Just wondering whether auto loading affects your OAL at times?
Thanks
That's impressive. If I may ask, in your competitions with the AR are you single loading magazines? Just wondering whether auto loading affects your OAL at times?
Thanks
These long range matches are single feed only, but I do shoot a magazine length load. That load is what i shot in this match as well.Congratulations fast14riot!
That's impressive. If I may ask, in your competitions with the AR are you single loading magazines? Just wondering whether auto loading affects your OAL at times?
Thanks
Thanks!
-Alexander
Thanks for your response. I've never attended such a match much less participated but it sounds very interesting, especially with an AR. My sons and I shoot variations of this on our farm.
Thanks again for the information!
Thanks again for the information!
Single loading from prone is made much more efficient with the use of a "BAD lever" device, only need to move trigger hand.Thanks for your response. I've never attended such a match much less participated but it sounds very interesting, especially with an AR. My sons and I shoot variations of this on our farm.
Thanks again for the information!
-Alexander
Interesting. I've just finished up my latest build using a 20" triad barrel. I fitted it with a BAD lever anticipating some usefulness but haven't fully tried it out yet in the field. I do like the operation in the shop tho.Single loading from prone is made much more efficient with the use of a "BAD lever" device, only need to move trigger hand.
-Alexander
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When in prone or on a bench if not using a rear rest/monopod, or using a simple squeeze bag, your left hand is supporting the stock (as many match rules dictate). Position your dope book, ammo box and other tools necessary to executing a successful engagement within 12" of your trigger hand. After releasing a shot, do not move off the gun, do not move the gun in your shoulder, grab your next round and load into the action, grab the grip and realign your sights. Close the action with your bad lever and prepare to shoot.
If recording data, spotting from a separate scope, needing to acquire a new target, etc, lift or turn your head slightly only. Do not remove the gun from your shoulder. Only if making gross adjustments where you should be resetting your entire position and NPA again anyways. When I'm shooting long range with iron sights my spotting scope is set up so all I have to do is open my left eye and the scope is right there. I may make notes to my dope about wind condition, light conditions (mostly for irons), mark my score book for call vs print, but I never actually break position or have to so I am ready to send the next round down range if conditions are holding favorable.
The whole point of building a good position is that the trigger hand has almost no influence in affecting the rifles position as the front rest, rear support, and head/sight alignment stays intact. Shooting sub MOA at all yardage encountered takes a bit of prep for the shot, it's just a new routine to develop. Sling, bipod, mechanical rest makes not much of a difference, everything should be set up to allow you to focus only on the next shot. Breaking position to release the bolt with your left hand really destroys all consistency.
I don't really subscribe to many of the YouTube videos on prone position beyond the basic fit parameters, i.e. being perfectly inline with the rifle, having a 90° bend in right knee, etc, but being in a totally relaxed state with bone support only is the key. Think dead weight and using no muscle. That is what will give you repeatable shots on target, on different days and yardages.
Anyways, longwinded way of explaining the reason for a bad lever, but for an AR they can be an important piece of kit.
-Alexander
If recording data, spotting from a separate scope, needing to acquire a new target, etc, lift or turn your head slightly only. Do not remove the gun from your shoulder. Only if making gross adjustments where you should be resetting your entire position and NPA again anyways. When I'm shooting long range with iron sights my spotting scope is set up so all I have to do is open my left eye and the scope is right there. I may make notes to my dope about wind condition, light conditions (mostly for irons), mark my score book for call vs print, but I never actually break position or have to so I am ready to send the next round down range if conditions are holding favorable.
The whole point of building a good position is that the trigger hand has almost no influence in affecting the rifles position as the front rest, rear support, and head/sight alignment stays intact. Shooting sub MOA at all yardage encountered takes a bit of prep for the shot, it's just a new routine to develop. Sling, bipod, mechanical rest makes not much of a difference, everything should be set up to allow you to focus only on the next shot. Breaking position to release the bolt with your left hand really destroys all consistency.
I don't really subscribe to many of the YouTube videos on prone position beyond the basic fit parameters, i.e. being perfectly inline with the rifle, having a 90° bend in right knee, etc, but being in a totally relaxed state with bone support only is the key. Think dead weight and using no muscle. That is what will give you repeatable shots on target, on different days and yardages.
Anyways, longwinded way of explaining the reason for a bad lever, but for an AR they can be an important piece of kit.
-Alexander
Thanks again Alexander. This is not only interesting, but very helpful.
Firstly congratulations on the 2nd place finish. Secondly thanks for the long-winded explain again of the usefulness of a Badlever I learned a lot and will likely be adding one to atleast one future build.
First time checking over this competition category, thought it would be brief but, whammo, wow! Goldmine 'o stuff! Thank you for posting your efforts, Alexander. Your practical approach to meeting and overcoming real-world conditions in these shoots you do, to get that "ding" especially at good distances, varied ones at that, making the mental adjustments on the fly, has got to be one of the best if not the best training method for any practical rifleman and particularly any hunter I've ever had the good fortune to stumble across. And all because I happen to build, handload for and shoot the msr format--6.8, yes please--and constantly seek to improve it, and the whole game.
Thanks!
Thanks!
I really appreciate the kind words guys. I'm just glad that some of my info can be of help to someone. I am a match shooter first, Hunter second. I shoot many more matches than the ones I post here. Sling and irons, air pistol, IHMSA, sling shot (yes, really), and I'm sure I'm missing something else.
My goal is to get new people shooting and old shooters out to matches and learning their gear. My dad is probably the best example of the latter class, he is an old school Hunter, if he can hit a paper plate at all ranges he considers it a dead animal. He also had a bad habit of lifting his head to watch his hits. It's taken a couple of years, but he's greatly improved and gained lots of understanding on ballistics. He's become a better shooter because of match shooting. It's been tough some times (read "Fired my spotter today" post), but it's been worth it.
Representing the 6.8 is a matter of pride for me at these matches now!
-Alexander
My goal is to get new people shooting and old shooters out to matches and learning their gear. My dad is probably the best example of the latter class, he is an old school Hunter, if he can hit a paper plate at all ranges he considers it a dead animal. He also had a bad habit of lifting his head to watch his hits. It's taken a couple of years, but he's greatly improved and gained lots of understanding on ballistics. He's become a better shooter because of match shooting. It's been tough some times (read "Fired my spotter today" post), but it's been worth it.
Representing the 6.8 is a matter of pride for me at these matches now!
-Alexander
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