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85 grain RDF 22 Nosler ammo

Reply from Nosler " The published velocity on the 22 Nosler ammo label was established with an 18" barrel but to answer your question, we're seeing an average of 2754 fps in an 18" barrel and 2820 fps out of a 24" barrel with the 85gr RDF's. "
 

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Ballistic Advantage 24" barrel 22 Nosler

Anyone shooting the telephone pole Ballistic Advantage 24" barrel 22 Nosler?

What kind of accuracy and is the extra length worth it?

BA has stopped making their shorter barrels in 22 Nosler and have the 24 inch at near give away prices
 

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Nosler lists a 66 fps difference for the 85 RDF between a 18 inch and a 24 inch barrel, 6 lands 8 twist.

So I should get all available velocity of factory ammo using the 24 inch lawnmower axel.

Hope for great accuracy.
 

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Dam that's fast, supersonic for how long? Way over a 120 fps faster than factory 85 RDF.

I shoot at over 3200 feet and usually above 100 degrees and under 5% humidity. I have worked in Louisiana, I doubt that state has ever seen a 5% humidity day. LOL

You are using the same barrel I just got, but that round as loaded is really long. Single loaded? I used to have an AR loading sled piece that sits on the top of a magazine like a follower, not sure where it is now. At least a no gas will be easier to single load than a gas version.

The Hagar brass holds less powder than the factory 22 Nosler brass.

Will you try the same load in 22 Nosler brass?

Can you load that round down to 2.33 inches with the same amount of powder using the 22 N brass so that you can load from a 6.8 magazine with the front cut out?

Sure would like to see Hornady making the 22 Nosler brass with A Max bullets, maybe with 80 SMKs?

Or Starline, there has to be potential for making money on 22 Nosler brass.
 

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Using 3200 feet above sea level and 100 degrees with 5% humidity the 85 RDF is 1595 fps at 1000 yards and 1160 fps at 1500 yards which is just supersonic. Above at 1228 at 1400 yards. Using your posted speed for 85 RDF & CFE223

Drag Function: G1
Ballistic Coefficient: 0.498
Bullet Weight: 85 gr
Initial Velocity: 2930 fps
Sight Height : 1.5 in
Shooting Angle: 0°
Wind Speed: 0 mph
Wind Angle: 0°
Zero Range: 200 yd
Chart Range: 1500 yd
Maximum Range: 7146 yd
Step Size: 100 yd
Corrected For Atmosphere
Adjusted BC: 0.603
Altitude: 3200 ft
Barometric Pressure: 29.92 Hg
Temperature: 100° F
Relative Humidity: 5%
Speed of Sound: 1160 fps

And 100 degrees is on the low side the last couple of years, weeks and weeks of 110. Last three years hottest in recorded history.
 

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I need a higher power scope, my best is the 6-18 Leupold AR Mod with Elevation Adjustment Range (MOA) of 67. Why they give in MOA since it is a mil dot scope? Finally found 22 MRAD

But I want closer to 30 power for those 600 yard shots, I am old and tired eyes. Need that extra scope power.
 

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The factory Nosler 85 grain RDF is loaded @ 2.248 to 2.250 inches, measured 2 out of the 4 boxes I got.

Nosler engineer stated 2820 from a 24 inch 6 grove, they claim only 66 fps less from an 18 inch barrel. So a ARP 3 grove 20" might get 2790 fps.

Not bad for ammo loaded to a standard 6.8 magazine length.

Of course most of us have the magazine with the front scallop cut out. Those can be loaded to 2.33 inches.
 

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Nosler Just the facts 22 Nosler vs. 223 vs. 224 Val all 24" barrels

How does the 22 Nosler stack up against the standard 223 Rem and the new 224 Valkyrie? With greater case capacity, and flatter trajectory to 1300 yards, the numbers don't lie. The 22 Nosler is still the fastest, flattest 22 caliber cartridge available for the standard AR-15 rifle. All using 24 inch barrels.

https://www.nosler.com/22-nosler/

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TECHNICAL INFORMATION:

The 22 Nosler case holds 34.2gr H2O at overflow, and 31.2gr H2O with a 55gr Ballistic Tip® seated to 2.260" OAL. For comparison, a 223 Remington case holds 27.4gr H2O with a 55gr BT seated at 2.260" OAL. The 22 Nosler has almost 25% more case capacity than the 223 Remington.
Bolt face dimensions are identical for the 22 Nosler and the 223 Remington / 5.56 NATO at .378".
Barrel Life with all barrels, it really depends on how they are treated but one should see approximately 2,000 rounds as used in competition and as many as 4,000 rounds if used as a plinking rifle
 

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Mil scope

Found out my just ordered 8-35x56 scope has 13 mil vertical and horizontal adjustment so I don't need a 20 MOA mount yet. I probably will never shoot at 1000 yards, but 600 yards is my goal.

I have shot steel at 400 yards in 20+ MPH winds and rang steel 9 out of 10 shots from my AR308 18" JT barrel. Might have been luck as I used hold off.
 

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I am with Rocketman, try buying a Hagar upper for under $1500.

My most expensive 22 Nosler barrel was the 18" Odin Works @ $306, the 24 inch BA was really inexpensive @ $206. My 8-35x56 scope was under $350. I too am on a fixed income retired for the 3rd time 2 years ago. Social Security doesn't go very far. I have a lot of lowers I can switch around for different builds.

At my advanced old age I no longer want to reload, the 85 RDF gets me to 600 yards and could easily do 1000 yards if I could see that far.

Both the 22 Nosler and the 224 Val have missed the boat on barrels. Both should be 6.5 or 7 twist for the heavier bullets and both should be 9 to 12 twist for the under 40 grain varmint rounds.

I can't imagine the varmint barrels without Nitride coatings, exceeding 3500 fps and approaching 4000 burns up barrels.
 

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A 6.5 Creedmoor can not be compared to an AR15 round, it only fits in the large frame AR308 platform. Heck I can shoot 100 and 110 grain bullets out of my AR308 and they are way over 3000 fps. But an entirely different platform.

Comparison to the 6 Dasher, Hagar and H's amazing rounds are better but these are reloaded rounds only.

They kick the 22 Nosler and 224 Val all over the place. Much faster and flatter shooting.

But when you compare factory loaded ammo the 22 Nosler and 224 Val are setting pretty well if compared to other 223/224 factory ammo. They can be used for target, varmint and larger animals like loped and deer and hogs.

Obviously it is relevant since others are interested and talking about it.
No, it should be in it's own thread under alternative calibers, as there is nothing comparative with the 22-250 and the 22 Nosler which is what this thread was labeled. I believe one company makes an AR in 22-250 and it's over $3000.
 

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Ballistic Advantage apparently has ditched the 22 Nosler. They used to have 4 different length barrels, last week they were down to just the 24 inch. This week not found on their web site.

Most companies just took their 223 barrels they had in stock and chambered them for 22 Nosler (from a company engineer). They were like lemmings with the 22 Nosler and the 224 Val, all going with the same twists.

The 22 Nosler needs a company to actually think. For longer range shooting they need a 7 twist with longer barrels for those great new 85 grain RDF rounds.

But they also need a 9 to 12 twist for those who want to shoot true varmint rounds of 35 to 55 grains. Those barrels will be FAST and need to be nitride QPQ coated.
 

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H you are probably correct. The military doesn't care if the brass is easily reloaded. But 556 bolts they have, and 6.8 magazines are much cheaper than 6.8 bolts (224Val).

The 62 grain green tip goes 3150 fps out of the 18 inch 22 Nosler. A 55 grain would be close to 3400 fps as it goes 3500 from a 24 inch barrel.

Nosler is great in that they list the velocity from 18" barrels, right on the box.

Maybe some foreign government would go for the 22 Nosler.
 

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Got to love the NRA

The 22 Nosler is the 2018 Ammunition Product of the Year!

And of course they have to appeal to the uber rich with a $4000 DIY precision rifle build. Give me a break! Of course a $340 bipod! Give me a break!

Now I would like to see a precision rifle build using a Savage bolt, the MagPul PRS stock, criterion barrel etc. Either in 6.8 (for us) or 224 Val because I know I can get a Savage bolt in 6.8!

Reason for the Savage is we don't know about Remington being around, maybe Savage will buy them out. More everything to Wyoming or Texas, or Idaho.
 

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What I don't like about the 22 Nosler is their two choices for 55 grain are much more expensive than their 62 grain, most of the time more expensive than the 77 CC.

Would like to see the 85 RDF ammo less then $20, they would sell a bunch.
 

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Not fair as you have so much experience with the 80 ELD

Please post all details including loaded lengths and powder charges. You not using the Hagar brass?

I am so MAD, today was 75 degrees and almost zero wind, of course the local range is CLOSED!!!!!

Hope Wednesday weather will be just OK as I need to adjust scope for 200 yards.
 
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