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does anyone have an upper built on an 18" SPR contoured barrel? if so how much does your complete rifle weigh?

i know individual parts/accessories will differ in weight, but if you have one i would like to know the weight of the bare rifle, or if you do not know the weight of the bare rifle what is the weight along w/ all your accessories?

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AR Performance 18" SPR barrel, YHM 9 inch customizable free float tube, Stag Lower, Command Arms tele-stock, Burris 3x9 with RRA scope mount, no mag, 9.5 lbs. With 15 round PRI loaded, 10.25 lbs, with 25 round PRI mag loaded, 10.75 lbs. Not exactly a featherweight but the accuracy is worth it.
 

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AR Performance 18" SPR barrel, YHM 9 inch customizable free float tube, Stag Lower, Command Arms tele-stock, Burris 3x9 with RRA scope mount, no mag, 9.5 lbs. With 15 round PRI loaded, 10.25 lbs, with 25 round PRI mag loaded, 10.75 lbs. Not exactly a featherweight but the accuracy is worth it.
WOW a couple of inches of mag and ten rounds makes up a 1/2 pound. :shock:
 

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that's a little heavier than i expected....i was guessing around 10# w/ a loaded mag and scope. and close to 11 if you add a light/vert grip/etc.....

anyone else have an 18" spr maybe and cardinal/kotonic?

i am asking as i have an 18" spr from bison on order and was just trying to get an idea on how much it would weigh.
 

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I also have an AR Performance 18" SPR profile barrel. The barrel itself weighs about 3.25lbs. The whole rifle together stands at 8.75lbs unloaded with scope. Just the upper weighs about 4.5lbs (with scope). I find it very maneuverable regardless of the extra weight up front, but I'm waiting on a TRX rail if they ever come out to lighten the front and bring the center of gravity closer to the pistol grip. It would also bring the weight of the rifle down to about 8lbs.
 

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I have an 18 inch rifle and I like the weight up front....
 

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joshuades, that's more of what i was wanting to hear. i too like a little weight to the front of rifle, it makes shooting off shooting sticks/bipods more accurate at longer ranges, as this is mostly going to be a hunting rifle.
 

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My CAD program shows 35.7 ounces for the 18" SPR, which is 2.23 lb.
What's the profile. Mine is tapering to .860 from the chamber (I think it starts at .900 right past chamber), .750 gas block boss, .730 to muzzle. It's also stainless if that makes a noticable weight difference.
 

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According to my highly calibrated lab-grade bathroom scale, my rifle weighs in at 10.5# with sling and empty 25-rd mag. Surprising, I would have guessed at least a pound less as it feels lighter in the hands. Before I pigged it out with 7# of lead, my old Colt HBAR weighed the same, but didn't handle as well.

Specifics: 18" K-T SPR contour barrel, rifle-length YHM 4rail floater (with end cap), low-pro mid-length gas system, magpul CTR stock, magpul grip, A3 upper receiver with carry handle, MI rail mount flip-up front sight, A2 style FH.
 

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18" ARP 5R with Mag Tactical billet magnesium receiver set, SIG carbon fiber A2 fixed stock, Nikon 2.5-10x BDC Gen 7 scope in Burris rings, red dot backup mounted at 45° off side of receiver so tilt rifle about 10° to 15° to get perfect CQB or close target with left eye. This is the rifle with a 282 yard first round ground hog kill.





Less than 6.5 pounds with Lancer 20 round magazine and 10 rounds in mag while being weighed. Have discovered the newer 5.56 Lancer 20 round magazines run perfect with 6.8 or 22 Nosler if don't go over 10 to 12 rounds total in magazine. I consider under seven pounds loaded with optics pretty darn good for an 18" barrel rifle with fixed full length stock. Have a fighting rifle in lock behind seat of truck. Currently a 13.5" 5.56 Shilen air gauged barreled AR with Vortex Strikefire red dot optic. Most days carry a second rifle out the door and it's been a coin toss between this 6.8 and my recently completed 20" ARP 22 Nosler. Give me a few weeks to finish some other projects and these will get shoved in a vault as tweak and enjoy fresh rifles.
 

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There was nothing light weight in 2014, now every part of an AR15 can be purchased MUCH lighter.

My 22 Nosler barrel weighs more than the ARP barrel listed SPR. Right now my entire rifle weighs 7.4 pounds without scope.

Without touching the 47 ounce barrel, I can cut 6 ounces with a lighter upper receiver. Cut another 6 ounces with a CF hand guard. Cut another 3-4 ounces with a lighter buffer. Cut another 6 ounces with a lighter buffer tube/stock. Cut 3 to 4 ounces with a lighter BCG.

If I re-profiled the barrel under the hand guard I could cut 6 ounces easily and pretty sure it would not affect accuracy.

Using quality light weight components to start with you could easily have a 6 pound 18" SPR. I could easily get it below 5.5 pounds.

Do like I do, wait until a holiday, Labor day is coming up. Great sale prices between 5% and 20% off, sometimes more. I subscribe to at least 15 emails from AR15 gun suppliers. Many time you have to jump on the really good items as they sell out fast.

Right now I am waiting for a sale on a titanium gas block and a titanium barrel nut, and a complete CF hand guard at least 12 inches. Going to lake my 22 Nosler down to 5.5 pounds.

One more thing, the SPR profile designation does not mean a huge increase in accuracy. All of the ARP barrels will shoot very accurately, sub MOA. H lists the expected accuracy on the ARP web site. I would look closer to the other specs like 3 or 5 R rifling, his chamber enhancements etc.
 

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Bison 18" SPR

that's a little heavier than i expected....i was guessing around 10# w/ a loaded mag and scope. and close to 11 if you add a light/vert grip/etc.....

anyone else have an 18" spr maybe and cardinal/kotonic?

i am asking as i have an 18" spr from bison on order and was just trying to get an idea on how much it would weigh.
I bought a Bison 18" SPR from Ben about a month ago. I finished it yesterday.
DPMS lower, Magpul CTR, Larue grip, Troy 13" Alpha, Warne rings, Leupold VX2. I was planning to weigh it next week with and without the PRI. I'll let you know.
 

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There was nothing light weight in 2014, now every part of an AR15 can be purchased MUCH lighter.

My 22 Nosler barrel weighs more than the ARP barrel listed SPR. Right now my entire rifle weighs 7.4 pounds without scope.

Without touching the 47 ounce barrel, I can cut 6 ounces with a lighter upper receiver. Cut another 6 ounces with a CF hand guard. Cut another 3-4 ounces with a lighter buffer. Cut another 6 ounces with a lighter buffer tube/stock. Cut 3 to 4 ounces with a lighter BCG.

If I re-profiled the barrel under the hand guard I could cut 6 ounces easily and pretty sure it would not affect accuracy.

Using quality light weight components to start with you could easily have a 6 pound 18" SPR. I could easily get it below 5.5 pounds.

Do like I do, wait until a holiday, Labor day is coming up. Great sale prices between 5% and 20% off, sometimes more. I subscribe to at least 15 emails from AR15 gun suppliers. Many time you have to jump on the really good items as they sell out fast.

Right now I am waiting for a sale on a titanium gas block and a titanium barrel nut, and a complete CF hand guard at least 12 inches. Going to lake my 22 Nosler down to 5.5 pounds.

One more thing, the SPR profile designation does not mean a huge increase in accuracy. All of the ARP barrels will shoot very accurately, sub MOA. H lists the expected accuracy on the ARP web site. I would look closer to the other specs like 3 or 5 R rifling, his chamber enhancements etc.
Want a heavy barrel? This one weighs almost same as complete rifle posted above, just a few ounces less but over six pounds.



Of course this barrel is for an an AR 10 in 6XC and even I am dangerous at 1,000 yards with it. Wind cooperates and spotter doesn't have to call for a second shot. Lighter is not always better, honestly I like a well balanced rifle in the seven pound range. Have AR 15's light as 5.5 pounds and over ten pounds. Have four 22 Nosler's including an ARP 20" 5R build. My best shooting 22 Nosler has a 22" Shilen air gauged 0.996" straight taper to gas block and then 0.850 from front of gas block to muzzle with 11° target crown. Have been able to waste vermin as small as crow out to 550 yards from cold barrel on first round. It will float an 80 grain Berger like a Patriot Missile. Remember most 22 Nosler barrels will start seeing accuracy fall off at 1,000 rounds. Lapping throat will help get another 500 then it becomes a plinker or fighting rifle. Been loading the new M855A1 projectiles in 22 Nosler and they turn Level 4 armor into a cheese grater. Jumped in way early on the Nosler and want to neck it up to 6mm but hoping factory will go that route and save the cost and effort of wildcating a 6mm Nosler. Back to 6.8 have a 0.966" straight taper 18" Bison barrel that drops to 0.850" past gas block with 11° target crown and while heavy, the stiffness really helps it shine shooting off a rest or bipod. Once I finish and tweak a rifle they seldom get reconfigured. Stick in vault and play with whatever is fresh off the build line. Can't see tearing down a tweaked and we'll shooting rifle. Of course buying vaults becomes an issue but cheap as AR stuff is right now trying to turn out one every two to four weeks.
 

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Is that 22" Shilen a bolt rifle or an AR? Cost? Oops, I just saw the gas block mentioned, Savage bolt would not have one!

I have had just one Shilen, a 26 inch select match HEAVY for a Savage bolt in 6.5 Creedmoor. I should have never sold it.

How about a show of those 22 Nosler rifles pretty please?

I might get the 26" 22 Nosler from White Oak, it weighs 4.5 pounds and takes a 0.936 gas block. That weighs more than my AR 308 rifle!
 

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The 6.2 pound 6XC W.O.A. barrel above is profiled from a Shilen blank, here is the only 22 Nosler builds have picture anywhere on net can link to right now. Notice built on same FDE Mag Tactical billet magnesium receiver set but has collapsible stock and muzzle brake instead of suppressor adapter. Not set any of my 22 Noslers up for cans yet but plan to swap out muzzle device and try a multicaliber can on one but imagine the crack is goimg to be sharp. Afraid to use a 5.56 can on one and blow it up. Will try to post some pics of other 22 Noslers later as time permits. Below rifle is first 22 Nosler build I did before W.O.A. or ARP had barrels. Nosler only had uppers and got lucky to get one of first lot of aftermarket Nosler's saw once cartridge was announced. Have two complete AR 10 kits minus barrels had intended to build into 22-250 or 22-250 Ackley Improved but the Nosler performance is so close now the long actions are going to most likely become 7mm-08's. Basically same performance as 308 but 30% less recoil on my broken neck and thoracic spine on long days on the range. Why got so heavy into 6.8, 80% of 308 performance in 3 to 5 pound lighter rifle with less recoil out to 250 yards.

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Have a pair of 24" Shilen air gauged heavy profile 5.56 barrels on bench right now, one just needs optics mounted, buffer and gas tuned, other needs lower built. Doing both exact same even with same 6.5-24 Vortex scopes except one will have Geissele trigger and other is going to have a $19 factory Colt trigger found in any off rack generic Colt AR but will square and polish all engagement surfaces on sear, hammer and disconnector. Also swap in a JP 3.5 Enhanced Reliability spring kit and shoot both side by side to prove a factory trigger if properly tuned will shoot with a $200 plus trigger. Have spent years working out easy-peasy internal trigger stop so have no creep and almost no travel, consistent 3.25 pound candycane trigger break that shoots as well as needed in most AR's with 100% reliability. Unless have a $400 plus barrel a $200 plus trigger is overkill. Can take factory milspec triggers, $10 in springs and screws to slick trigger up as nice as could really need. Of course right hammer and sear polishing jig along with fitting block and some practice is helpful but if willing to risk the occasional light strike on batch of hard primers can drop pull to 2.5 pounds with milspec single stage trigger.

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Sold Winchester 1886 collection to motivated buyer a while back which freed up enough cash to build a rifle about every three weeks on average for past three years. Sandy Hook was also profitable as well allowing me to thin my combloc rifle stack to reasonable size. Had to slow my roll due to safe issues but installed one this week and looking at another tomorrow. Was able to put the dozen AR's that didn't fit in home vaults or work vault up finally and if secure unit looking at tomorrow will allow me to build all the AR barrels have on bench and three FN FAL builds begun into complete rifles. If can't store in fireproof safe get nervous, dual alarms, force rated doors/windows and proximity to 911 center keeps worry about thieves to minimum but a fire will eat rifles even in 60% of gun safes on market. If rated as U.L. RSC or U.L. 8M10 odds are contents won't survive a fairly decent house fire and real fire safes big enough for rifles are not cheap unless lucky. Safe looking at tomorrow owner said is causing structural damage to house and floor is sagging, needs it gone fast.
 

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hueyville;1117169... Safe looking at tomorrow owner said is causing structural damage to house and floor is sagging said:
Only have one safe and it is sitting on a concrete floor and weighs about 1800 lbs. Previously it was on a wood frame house floor but before safe was delivered went under house and braced the floor so sagging would not happen.
 
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